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  1. #1
    Player
    mapotofuuu's Avatar
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    Kage Namitsu
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    1. Just because it is better than the old system does not mean it does not need to be changed/improved because it does.
    2. While this improve the raid loot for statics it did literally nothing for pugs (pugging is a way of playing and should not be excluded with "oh you can just join a static" fights with pugs are more dynamic and keep an otherwise static fight interesting)
    3. I cleared this tier a month before my friend, but he's now more geared, 6 ilvls higher, than me. That's just bad design if someone literally a month behind you suddenly jumped to 3 months (have 5/16 books atm for weapon and chest) ahead after clearing a month after you just because RNG. What's SE trying to say? If your RNG sucks doesn't matter how good you are or how fast you clear?
    4. 1 clear a week extends this content in a frustrating way not a good way especially when you get NOTHING that week and sometime it doesn't extend it it just kills the content early on for some people since they're not going to deal with the RNG of getting nothing.
    5. Some people would like to get gear earlier to test out certain jobs to see potential output and optimizing fights, honestly I enjoy optimizing fights when I get gear, in reverse when I don't get anything that week I don't feel like doing anything even crafting/achievement hunting/glamour hunting because I feel annoyed at the game.
    6. The RNG mitigation system is ok for early turn pieces but 4 months for both my weapon and chest piece is stupid especially if I want to try other classes out too.
    7. Honestly a middle ground might be letting those that get no loot for that turn to still be eligible for a loot on that turn (So they can throw themselves at it until they get something for the week). Or improve the RNG mitigation system.
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  2. #2
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    metcalta's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Taylor Alexander
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Savage loot is broken as all hell. It doesnt promote any form of community building, and this is the most difficult content where you want the most amount of cooperation. Currently it is a toxic wasteland that is shameful and frankly insulting to us players.

    My solution would be:
    1 piece per person per week.
    No chest degradation for multiple people who have clears

    In this way friends who have cleared could help teach other people the fight while still getting a shot at their weekly piece if they missed it on their static night, and it would keep more people running the content every week.
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  3. #3
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Character
    Dusk Himmel
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    i would have won all three rolls today if one wasn't a dupe

    anyway i still think it should be 2 set items and 2 coffers
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  4. #4
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Character
    Alijana Tumet
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    They really need to reduce the amount of books required to buy gear if anything. If you're too unlucky to win anything from ES4 (Which is improbable but not to an unrealistic extent, especially when there's nothing keeping people from rolling on coffers when they're already BiS), you'd need 16 books or nearly four months worth of clears to get both the weapon and chest piece which is utterly ridiculous.

    I see no issue with making savage more accessible by making players get geared faster. It would encourage people to try other jobs more readily.

    I would also not be against preventing people from rolling on coffers if they already have an Edengrace item in that particular slot.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 10-23-2019 at 09:55 PM.

  5. #5
    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Maximum Powerful
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    a lot of this has to do with not being a static where you can assign loot to people. if you choose to pug life it, you're gonna have to be prepared to deal with the consequences of RNGesus. can't have your cake and eat it too.
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  6. #6
    Player
    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Character
    Alijana Tumet
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Apparently the JP playerbase was displeased about the change to the loot system in Eden specifically because it sucks for people who don't have a static group; enough that Yoshi P had to reassure them that the average PUG player would still be getting more loot overall (Evidently, I'm not average as I still haven't won anything from ES4 after 10 clears now).

    Ironically, it works better there because the "me first" attitude is something that is inherently discouraged in their culture and people are much more willing to pass on coffers if they see others who genuinely need the upgrades.

    I'm surprised they didn't at least limit how many coffers you can win per raid in 5.1 as having roll against one less person per item you lose would improve your odds a little.
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  7. #7
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    ValkyrieL's Avatar
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    Valkyrie Lenneth
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 90
    What they could do is, once duty is complete, allowed players to farm it with a 3% chance of dropping a BOOK.

    Clear in 90 minutes, spend the next 7 days farming
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    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Maximum Powerful
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ValkyrieL View Post
    What they could do is, once duty is complete, allowed players to farm it with a 3% chance of dropping a BOOK.

    Clear in 90 minutes, spend the next 7 days farming
    why would you do that to yourself? that's like trying to get an EX mount whistle.
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    Character
    Pepsi Plunge
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Or they could give everyone who didn't get an item a second book as a consolation price. This way, even if you never get an item you would still have chest & weapon after 8 clears.
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    Pepsis Eorzea-Tagebuch:
    https://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/22850747/blog/


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    Character
    Ferris Straynge
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 80
    Haha, I've never even done any Savage modes. I plan on trying them soon. Maybe with next patch but the one thing I really love is that you honestly don't need the gear from them. It's not that far ahead of the gear you can get with the latest tomestones...just a little extra something for those who put in the time and effort. Even if it takes forever to get them then that's fine with me. Its not needed but a nice little something extra for those who work at it. I just think it's nice not to need this stuff if you don't want to do it or don't have the time to do it but it's still a good little bonus for those that do.
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