The new loot system for Savage is not good.

[Grymblyss]

As someone that has been unable to ever obtain a static that ever has stuck together, the new loot system is terrible. It only benefits statics. It makes lootmaster look good, though no one would join a lootmaster savage party.

People should not have to compete against someone that already have certain pieces of gear and are purely rolling for alt jobs or rolling just to steal a coffer. It severely hurts the gearing process of those of us that use party finder to queue up. Most people would rather see the gear drop that no one can use, than lose on a coffer to someone that already has bis on their main job, while the person that needs it is still wearing mainly tome and crafted gear.

I'm not sure the best method of changing it, whether it be two gear drops and one coffer. Or two coffers, two gear drops. Or how it is in the final fight, with two coffers, and the gear drop. I feel that it needs to be changed in some way to help benefit party finder players.

I've obtained 4 drops from E1S over the seven weeks I've cleared. And three drops from E2S over the three weeks I've cleared. Though the E2S drops were two accessory upgrades and a tomestone. I'm guilty of rolling for alt jobs myself, but that's only after checking with my friend that I run with to see if he rolled high or not, and I pass on the pieces he needs even if he rolled low. But it' be impossible to ask 5 other players to do the same.

[Dogempire]

Unfortunately I don't see there being a solution to this unless they implemented something like 1 item per week so a person can't win everything.

That being said, I much prefer the current loot system, especially for weapons. There are what, 17 combat jobs not counting BLU?

Would be much better to fight over a weapon coffer than it would be to try for your weapon by banging your head against the 1/17 rng currently in game for weapons.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

There are like 10 threads about the new savage loot system already. No need for a new one.

[LunaChild]

I never understand the complaint about having someone in PUG rolling on the piece they already have, they come with best gears they have and make the fight end faster, they should have every right to roll for items or did they should just do charity?

Would it be better if they change to 450 and join PUG so they are eligible for rolling?

[Lunavi]

I never understand the complaint about having someone in PUG rolling on the piece they already have, they come with best gears they have and make the fight end faster, they should have every right to roll for items or did they should just do charity?

Would it be better if they change to 450 and join PUG so they are eligible for rolling?

This so much. I rather them enter with their 470 main they have mastered than a 450 alt they barely hold their own with.

[Driavna]

I never understand the complaint about having someone in PUG rolling on the piece they already have, they come with best gears they have and make the fight end faster, they should have every right to roll for items or did they should just do charity?

Would it be better if they change to 450 and join PUG so they are eligible for rolling?

IMO people coming up with reasons for "I deserve the loot more than that guy". As I already said in other topics: find a static. If I already have all the loot (I talking about PUGs BTW) in one class and you don't let me roll for other classes two things are going to happen:

- I go with the alt, so the run is not going to be as smooth.

- I stop doing it. Parties will be harder to fill over time.

[KageTokage]

If anything, I just wish they'd lower the number of books required to get loot.

[ForteNightshade]

Speak for yourself. As someone who only saw a single slaying accessory in ten weeks and saw several pieces hit the ground, I much prefer a system everything is actually useful. Ironically, our weapon drops in E4S have been awful; a nice little reminder how much better this new system is.

Now ways I think they could improve the system would be only allow you a single Need roll win per week. I suggested this in another thread but the way it'd work is say, everyone rolls need on the Belt, Earrings and Ring coffers. Should you win one of them, your subsequent Need rolls become Greed. What this does is still allow statics to divvy out loot as they place but also prevents someone in a pug from winning everything.

[Kaedan]

The new loot system is objectively better for everyone. Yeah, the one thing they could improve is lowering the cost of books for certain things.

[Vidu]

Its really kinda sad to see people argue that they'd rather see all the loot drop to the floor than seeing someone walk away with gear they can actually use... Its not that I dont understand why people think like this and there have been discussions at length showing the problems in peoples thinking so that I dare say: At the end of the day this system is truely better for everyone, pugs and statics alike.

It might not feel better to get nothing because someone else got everything. But you could also got nothing with the old system for weeks while at the same time seeing those tank-accessories no one wanted drop for the fifth time...