Worst housing system I have ever seen

[Delphinus]

The game buries you in decorations and expects you to try and win the lottery for getting a plot. I know why the devs dont fix this, they are using this as incentive to move to a less populated data center/server. Do not give in, keep putting the pressure on to add more plots and fix the housing issue! also they should investigate monopolies hard. housing Monopolies are against TOS and there is tons of real estate agents anyway selling and buying plots using their accounts and their families accounts.

Now all of that aside the method of obtaining a plot is literally the lottery which favors people with alot more time to play the game creating a has and has not situation (further giving incentive's for people to seek out real estate agents and pay large sums which violates TOS) If your going to make this system as such make it an actual lottery where NO one can own more than one house personally. (Sorry folks, for those of you who play this game for housing, you need to learn the share)
Give us something different, please devs. Maybe an instanced housing option similer to the APTs.

[Divinemights]

/facepalm
There is already an instanced housing called apartment....

[KayRadley]

/facepalm
There is already an instanced housing called apartment....

Beat me to it.

[Jojoya]

I seen worse housing systems in MMOs. LotRO when I tried that game about 7 years ago immediately comes to mind.

The game buries you in decorations and expects you to try and win the lottery for getting a plot.

The game doesn't expect you to do it. It lets you decide if you want to try.

You can use most of the housing items obtained through normal game play in apartments. You only need a plot for the outdoor items and those usually are an optional purchase you're free not to make.

I know why the devs dont fix this, they are using this as incentive to move to a less populated data center/server. Do not give in, keep putting the pressure on to add more plots and fix the housing issue!

Of course it's one incentive to get players to move to lesser populated servers where housing is already available. They aren't going to add more wards when that's going to create even more vacancies on worlds that already have plots available.

also they should investigate monopolies hard. housing Monopolies are against TOS and there is tons of real estate agents anyway selling and buying plots using their accounts and their families accounts.

Where does it state that in the ToS?

I doubt the flippers are using the accounts of family members when an individual can have multiple server accounts.

Now all of that aside the method of obtaining a plot is literally the lottery which favors people with alot more time to play the game

I can't think of a MMO that doesn't give advantages to people with more time to play. It's hard to design a MMO so greater time investment doesn't lead to greater rewards.

(further giving incentive's for people to seek out real estate agents and pay large sums which violates TOS)

Please quote the portion of the ToS that says this is a violation when only gil is involved.

If your going to make this system as such make it an actual lottery where NO one can own more than one house personally.

They aren't going to penalize players who legitimately obtained multiple houses when limits were per character, not per account. Forcing those players to give up their additional houses will only help a handful of players and still leave the majority without wanting one.

Maybe an instanced housing option similer to the APTs.

Now you're onto something. More plots is not the answer. An improved instanced housing system is because then every player, even every character, who wanted a house could get one without creating the strain on server resources that more wards creates. It removes the power of the flippers because there's no reason to try to bribe another player to give up the plot they already own when you can get one directly from the game when you want.

I've no doubt that have something in store for us with regards to housing improvements but only they know exactly what it is. Let's hope the 5.1 live letter gives us some information.

[Nena_Mayland]

Now you're onto something. More plots is not the answer. An improved instanced housing system is because then every player, even every character, who wanted a house could get one without creating the strain on server resources that more wards creates. It removes the power of the flippers because there's no reason to try to bribe another player to give up the plot they already own when you can get one directly from the game when you want.

I've no doubt that have something in store for us with regards to housing improvements but only they know exactly what it is. Let's hope the 5.1 live letter gives us some information.

This I agree with. I’m certain they know by now that just adding new wards/plots isn’t going solve the problem. And even if they did find more ways to prevent bots or house flippers who just buy plots then sells them at crazy prices, they would just find ways to exploit that system again just like now.

What they really need to work on is improving apartments and perhaps allowing us to upgrade them with our Gil. They already have the framework and foundations of instanced housing, they just need to evolve or improve on it. I mean I love the crystarium inn suite. Note how it feels more spacious and bigger than the previous inn rooms we had. I think that’s a hint that they’re working on something involving apartments.

Now I might be wrong and this is just theory crafting but I do think they are working on something, just because there has been no response from them so far doesn’t mean they don’t see or ignoring the problems of our current housing system. But they can’t make promises they can’t keep either.

But I also hope that they’ll bring it up either at the part 1 of the 5.1 live letter (though I assume it’ll be mostly about the Neir raid) ^^ or they’ll mention it in Part 2.

[Kaiserdrache]

Housing is a topic that needs in general a fix.
It cant be that you have housing in this game with servers full of thousands over thousands of players, and then this game actually makes it possible only for like a few hundred of them to actually own a house (among which are many FC Headquarts and actually no personal houses), while everyone else is forced to have maximum only an appartment. Thats pathetic.

Housing has to be possible for everyone. I don't need to have for this extra full housing villages. Would be enough if my house is just a personal instance to which I could invite others, it doesnt need to stand for me extra in an instanced village full of houses from others.

Make Housing if that needs to be a thing that costs like 1 Dollar/Euro rent a half year, thats 2 Dollar/Euro a year, if that use only 1 million active players theb does earn housibg 2 million cash that should be more than enough money alone already to upgrade servers with more than enough bandwith to ensure that everyone can have own houses who actually want to have one, because only due to that feature being there, doen't mean that all players want also to use it.
Not every player must be into housing and likes it, ther are also alot of player which don't care themself about housing in FF14 at all.

But everyone who cares about it, should also be able to use that feature, without being forced to play any plot lottery for years!!! Thats just ridiculous.

[Kenky]

Make Housing if that needs to be a thing that costs like 1 Dollar/Euro rent a half year, thats 2 Dollar/Euro a year, if that use only 1 million active players theb does earn housibg 2 million cash that should be more than enough money alone already to upgrade servers with more than enough bandwith to ensure that everyone can have own houses who actually want to have one,

Yeah, but.. Well, sorry to tell you this, but..

People already pay for their housing. It's called their sub fee. Doubt people would be okay with people having to pay more to keep what they earned in-game. What about the people who don't have that much income they can throw away? Well, you just alienated them. Kudos!

Sure does suck when you claim "for the people" then fall into these sorts of pits. Want some rope?

[Jojoya]

Yeah, but.. Well, sorry to tell you this, but..

People already pay for their housing. It's called their sub fee. Doubt people would be okay with people having to pay more to keep what they earned in-game. What about the people who don't have that much income they can throw away? Well, you just alienated them. Kudos!

Sure does suck when you claim "for the people" then fall into these sorts of pits. Want some rope?

The sub fee isn't for the house. The sub fee is for access to the game servers.

If the sub fee was for the house, then every player would have one and wouldn't have to pay any gil to get it in the first place.

If someone is dumb enough to keep paying a sub fee to retain a house in a game they aren't otherwise playing, that's their choice.

I don't agree that getting or keeping a house should be a real money purchase, but a gil fee to retain a limited resource would make sense.

[Gerel]

The sub fee isn't for the house. The sub fee is for access to the game servers.

If the sub fee was for the house, then every player would have one and wouldn't have to pay any gil to get it in the first place.

If someone is dumb enough to keep paying a sub fee to retain a house in a game they aren't otherwise playing, that's their choice.

I don't agree that getting or keeping a house should be a real money purchase, but a gil fee to retain a limited resource would make sense.

Thing is, that could just as easily punish the people who do keep a sub active on a month-per-month basis. Just because they aren't logging in consistently doesn't mean they want to suddenly lose their house because they couldn't find the hours to pay an arbitrary gil tax. It'd just rub people the wrong way all around and necessitate even more time that they may not have. Should they be punished because of that after they've already gone through the effort of plunking down millions for the plot?

And while this may not be an issue for some--I'm an active crafter and gil's no real obstacle for me--it'll still hit those who aren't as great at making a digital income. Especially since to make the gil tax a feasible idea, you'd need to make it in the ballpark of a sizable chunk in order to push it as a legitimate worry. I play a game to get away from the idea of paying taxes; I don't need it permeating my pretend-y fun times, too.

[Ilyrian]

Make Housing if that needs to be a thing that costs like 1 Dollar/Euro rent a half year, thats 2 Dollar/Euro a year, if that use only 1 million active players theb does earn housibg 2 million cash that should be more than enough money alone already to upgrade servers with more than enough bandwith to ensure that everyone can have own houses who actually want to have one, because only due to that feature being there, doen't mean that all players want also to use it.
Not every player must be into housing and likes it, ther are also alot of player which don't care themself about housing in FF14 at all.

Why on earth would you suggest something like this?!
Has the games as services culture permeated so much that now you're asking to give SE more money - like some sort of abused spouse.

If they wanted to add more houses they would. If they wanted to open more servers the would. I think it's safe to assume they want to spend their money elsewhere.