Eureka wasn't so bad, but endgame in ffxiv is lacking without eureka

[samurailargo]

They just need the fates in eureka to drop newest tomestone. And it will be relevent content again

[LaylaTsarra]

They just need the fates in eureka to drop newest tomestone. And it will be relevent content again

I agree just not happening with poetics

[ForteNightshade]

They just need the fates in eureka to drop newest tomestone. And it will be relevent content again

Eh. While that might help, hunts are infinitely better, especially as our ilvl increases. By grab NMs in Eureka when you can join a hunt train and be capped in less than 40 minutes?

Absolute Virtue’s design was another one of my gripes, not so much the add rooms, but the fact that whether or not you could even attempt to fight with without getting KOed within the first 2 minutes of the fight was to have an NM, completely outside of BA, and therefore out of your reach, be defeated. It wasn’t an easy NM either, heck, it was arguably the hardest one out of the bunch in Hydatos. Plus, the reward for downing it was hardly worth the effort, to the point where it wasn’t uncommon of having reports on most of a Hydatos instance flat out refusing to do that NM. I think it would have been best to either have the NM within BA, or to just have it removed altogether.

This was only a problem for the first couple weeks when said NM rewarded a paltry 10 crystals. Once they buffed that to 30, everyone practically tripped over themselves to kill it. I did a LOT of BA and it was never an issue.

[LaylaTsarra]

Eh. While that might help, hunts are infinitely better, especially as our ilvl increases. By grab NMs in Eureka when you can join a hunt train and be capped in less than 40 minutes?

Yes you can join a hunt train but you can't earn a relic with hunts. I'd work on another relic IF doing nm's gave me a reason to be there other than crystals. I am sure not motivated to go or do them with poetics the reward and I'm sure I'm not alone.

And I might add I have quite a few relics to my credit on multiple characters.

[ForteNightshade]

Yes you can join a hunt train but you can't earn a relic with hunts. I'd work on another relic IF doing nm's gave me a reason to be there other than crystals. I am sure not motivated to go or do them with poetics the reward and I'm sure I'm not alone.

And I might add I have quite a few relics to my credit on multiple characters.

I mean, the relic itself is the reward. I've gone back and done several HW relics, and may do some on my alts. The only issue with Eureka is it's not solo friendly.

[LaylaTsarra]

I mean, the relic itself is the reward. I've gone back and done several HW relics, and may do some on my alts. The only issue with Eureka is it's not solo friendly.

No it's not. I suspect we'll see a major nerf when they get ready to announce the new one. The problem now although I can't verify it personally given I really haven't entered the content since xpac. I would consider it if the tomes were worth the visit. Nothing like Ovni to cap a character off or the NM's to help cap you while earning crystals at the same time.

It's going to be interesting to see what they do because my feeling at the moment is the content is simply dead.

[Akatosh]

This was only a problem for the first couple weeks when said NM rewarded a paltry 10 crystals. Once they buffed that to 30, everyone practically tripped over themselves to kill it. I did a LOT of BA and it was never an issue.

Glad to hear your experience with it was better than mine, I wasn't fortunate enough to not have that NM be an issue, or perhaps my luck is just not that great. Putting that aside, though, the design choice remains terrible imo. It may have been fine in the short term, when Eureka was active, but now that it's essentially dead, getting through Absolute Virtue, while not impossible, is not exactly the easiest of feats. Unless you can somehow convince a significant number of people to come in to deal with the NM, or you have a support group of 8 people that will not mess up a single time against the NM, your chances of getting to even attempt Absolute Virtue are fairly slim. In the long term, that mechanic just feels like an overly excessive gate for people who couldn't make it in time for the BA gold rush, and I feel like it would need to be revised if the devs intend to keep BA viable, or, better yet, find a way to keep Eureka alive. Based on how things went with Diadem's emergengy missions, though, I very much doubt will happen. I find that a shame, though. The story behind Eureka was better than what I was expecting, and it had a good bit of lore behind it (not to mention that letting all of that content die out feels like a terrible waste). I wish they found a way to keep the place from a perma-dead state to give people who were late for it a chance to experience it without the pain that is trying to get through Eureka when it's empty (which will most likely turn people off from going through it right at Anemos).