Quote Originally Posted by RoyalBeef View Post
I don't think oneshot mechanics that rely on 8 people making 0 mistakes are good game design, or fun gameplay wise, especially with randoms. Sure you can use that kind of mechanic occasionally, but I prefer stuff like E2S where you still have personal responsibility, but you don't insta wipe the whole thing when you make a mistake. You will eventually hit enrage if too many mistakes happen, sure, but the mood in parties in that kind of content is usually a lot better than in parties that insta wiped for the 20th time in a row bc someone fked up some mechanic.
Myself and everyone I raid with think those 2 things are the same. in other words, personal responsibility and group responsibility are the same. You dying due to being unfocused for a few seconds means we have to make up your DPS in the long run of the fight. What ruins the mood entirely is when someone doesnt acknowledge a mistake was made and refuse to adjust.