Eureka wasn't so bad, but endgame in ffxiv is lacking without eureka

[ShadowSolaris7]

I just hope the next relic content focuses on the relic storywise again and not some place with relic just being there.

Next relic content, if they go with Eureka like content again at least have more options to work on your relic like crafting, gathering, exploring etc and not just boring mob grinding again, and if we get mob grinding again least let us able to do it solo. Also if they do BA like content again, just let us queue to it outside from the instance and not "have these items to enter this content" again please.

[Nora_of_Mira]

tldr: why cant SE just make more contents for capped level only? at least i will feel like i achieved something for getting this far.

bruh, it's patch 5.08. we're going to get tons of **** to do throughout this expansion but it hasn't started yet.

[Lambdafish]

What has been established? It is not the way I define it. Time to drop it folks. You can't change the world. Stop trying.

I like how you ignored the other comments refuting your claim, as though singling out a single comment somehow makes your point more valid.

You are likely a troll, but I want to treat you like you genuinely believe what you are saying. In which case, I feel bad for you that you can't identify the structure of the game, you must get lost quite a lot.

[Misutoraru]

... I'm not even past Anemos yet. May proceed maybe at a later time.

That’s one of the biggest issue of eureka type content and it deem to fail. You have to stick to the “majority of player base” to progress through this type of content. If you miss the initial train of progression, you will be left behind. There are also zero incentives for veteran player to go back to these content other than another outdated relic. Even if there reward for old player to return such content, the punishment for being having slightly larger level gap was not helping either.
Eureka is pretty much a one time hype content resembling the worst issues from old Korean made MMO and put it in FFXIV. I wish the dev learn from it and never made anything like that in the future

[Sapphire_Dianta]

I'm... kinda confused. Where did all the people who loved Eureka come from all of a sudden? I thought it was content that was utterly despised for being shallow and poorly thought out, despite being an interesting concept. Sure, Baldesion Arsenal was cool and I'm glad I got my Demi-Ozma mount before the content died, but the rest was... not great. If you miss the 'Eureka experience', you can literally go to the final Shadowbringers area and just kill overworld mobs for two hours. That's literally the entire Eureka experience. Kill 100 overworld mobs, kill the one thinly-veiled hunt mark rebranded as a notorious monster, repeat ad infinitum until you're either level-capped or your arms fall off. Definitely not looking forward to the new one coming up in this expansion.

[Soupa]

I just hope they won't lock anything remotely less grindy behind, well, dozens of hours of grinding, this time around. There needs to be more than just grinding and NM trains from the start.

I do agree that the content should be a little more varied from the get go but, and this might sound elitist, stuff like Baldession Aresenal DEFINITELY should be locked behind a grind of some sort. That place almost requires prior knowledge and experience of how logos skills work and how certain mobs behave which some can be found in the grind that you experienced. I never ran into someone in BA who was as clueless as some of the DF people I meet sometimes. Can you be carried in BA? Of course but the chances of you surviving and making it to the end are really low if you do that.

[LaylaTsarra]

I do agree that the content should be a little more varied from the get go but, and this might sound elitist, stuff like Baldession Aresenal DEFINITELY should be locked behind a grind of some sort. That place almost requires prior knowledge and experience of how logos skills work and how certain mobs behave which some can be found in the grind that you experienced. I never ran into someone in BA who was as clueless as some of the DF people I meet sometimes. Can you be carried in BA? Of course but the chances of you surviving and making it to the end are really low if you do that.

The problem with people who don't have a clue is they can wipe the entire raid. Only takes one mistake at Ozma to wipe everyone. I certainly hope we get more content like this it was pretty amazing. I don't raid but this although a bit intimidating at first was a blast for me.

[Nora_of_Mira]

I'm... kinda confused. Where did all the people who loved Eureka come from all of a sudden?

we were in Eureka while people complained about it. I do agree the enjoyment was pretty time-sensitive; I havent stepped inside ever since completing BA and finishing 3 relics, and that was maybe 2-3 weeks after Hydatos came out. I can't imagine going back in at this point, I would have to be in a severe content drought to be compelled to go back in for glam.

personally, it was fun for the same reason Borderlands is fun: it's only fun bc I had friends to play with.

The problem with people who don't have a clue is they can wipe the entire raid. Only takes one mistake at Ozma to wipe everyone. I certainly hope we get more content like this it was pretty amazing. I don't raid but this although a bit intimidating at first was a blast for me.

as chaotic as it was, I really enjoyed 1-6 people trying to organize 48-56 people in a battle [in the Baldesion Discord]. It didn't always work but eventually, we came together as a team and succeeded. It felt more of a triumph than any Savage I've done so far.

[kunoz]

If you miss the 'Eureka experience', you can literally go to the final Shadowbringers area and just kill overworld mobs for two hours. That's literally the entire Eureka experience. Kill 100 overworld mobs, kill the one thinly-veiled hunt mark rebranded as a notorious monster, repeat ad infinitum until you're either level-capped or your arms fall off. Definitely not looking forward to the new one coming up in this expansion.

That is not an Eureka experience I know. In Eureka, there was a lot of danger zone that you cannot trespass unless you sneak in like a ninja. Thanks to that aspects, it made a lot of memorable experience in Eureka. Also, there was a lot of people in the zone that personally made me felt like the content was alive. Each different people would have a different purpose in that zone, for example, you would have a group that is farming for challenge logs, NM trains, bunnies, and quests. All these relates to grinding mobs for hours, but that's the WHOLE point of it, it is an eureka content and most IMPORTANTLY, an M M O R P G. Yes, there are better ways to handle things in Eureka to grind with some creativity, but you'll always have to grinds mobs. Not to mention, Eureka was pretty interactive. A lot of people would talk to each other and If I am gonna have to grind mobs for hours and hours, I rather do it in an OPEN WORLD with hundreds of players than do DUNGEONS with crappy players who doesn't even know how to play their job and waste 25 minutes of my time.

[Alucard135]

Or, you know, like 80-90% of the playerbase noped the heck out of Eureka.

And that's why more people did it compared to HW relic lol? The numbers are there you know.