About the complains..

[darkstarpoet1]

Do you get to see responses from people you provide services to on a daily basis? Believe it or not some people actually get motivated when their work is appreciated.

I'm both a programmer and an IT. I have lots of face time with the people I work for, so I get to see both the thank you's and the complaints. I got to tell you it's a hell of a lot easier to want to put forth more of an effort for someone who's supportive of you than someone who insults your work.

I don't by any means think that everyone should be throwing a parade for the work they are doing on this game. Nor do I think you should be required to make a thank you thread or even respond in one to show your support. I do think however the way that some players post their "constructive criticisms" is just plain rude and over the line.

well, since i do help provide power and gas i think anyone i see i help provide those services to.

what i am getting at is i don't go around saying i'm not going to work as hard because people don't say thank you. my paycheck and the way i provide for my family is why i work hard. i need no other boosts to make me do my job. all i ever hear is negative stuff stated about those "evil gas companies", but do you think that stops me from going in and doing work for them?

i'm just saying i don't think a thank you is required to say to make someone a good person. where i live you say thank you for someone completing something. it may be nothing more than saying thank you when they open the door for you, but you say it after they do that. i look at it and say once 2.0 comes out and is a success they will have earned my thank you because then they will have completed their project.

[CrystalWeapon]

well, since i do help provide power and gas i think anyone i see i help provide those services to.

what i am getting at is i don't go around saying i'm not going to work as hard because people don't say thank you. my paycheck and the way i provide for my family is why i work hard. i need no other boosts to make me do my job. all i ever hear is negative stuff stated about those "evil gas companies", but do you think that stops me from going in and doing work for them?

i'm just saying i don't think a thank you is required to say to make someone a good person. where i live you say thank you for someone completing something. it may be nothing more than saying thank you when they open the door for you, but you say it after they do that. i look at it and say once 2.0 comes out and is a success they will have earned my thank you because then they will have completed their project.

Kind of completely stepped over the point. The dev team's situation is a little different than yours. Your relationship with the people you serve is on a very ambiguous level. Yoshi himself frequents these forums on a very regular basis. There's a big difference between the two situations. He has a direct line of communication with the people he's working for as he's working for them.

There is no "That damn Square Enix is scamming us for our money" it's "Yoshi's scamming us for our money." What they do is on a much more personal level with the consumer than what you do.

The point I'm trying to make is, I don't agree that we have to be supportive of them in a vocal way (though it does help b/c of how they can directly see what we're saying), but we should at least have some form of manners when we request / complain about something. You don't need a thank you to do your job, but "This seems a little buggy, could you change this" is a long shot better than "No surprised you @#$%ed this up again. This should be like [...]"

[darkstarpoet1]

Kind of completely stepped over the point. The dev team's situation is a little different than yours. Your relationship with the people you serve is on a very ambiguous level. Yoshi himself frequents these forums on a very regular basis. There's a big difference between the two situations. He has a direct line of communication with the people he's working for as he's working for them.

when i worked residential i did deal with customers on a personal daily basis. if you don't think, even in industrial fields, you get direct feedback on the quality of your work you are mistaken. sure the direct feedback if from one company to another instead of person to person, but the quality of your work is still under direct scrutiny.

no it's more than that. the release of xiv reminds me of when i did residential work before i went into industrial. say you have a guy come out and put a roof on your house and that roof leaks(the original release) and the company says they will come back out and fix the leak in the roof(the remake of the game). i am not going to thank the company for coming back and fixing the mistake they made in the first place while they are still working on it. they messed up the first time so the roof may still leak once it's finished.

if that company came back and got the job right the second time i may thank the company for coming back, but may not since the original was a bad job. when it comes to doing your job right you can either get it done right the first time or expect constant complaints while you are fixing the issue.