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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    no you can say somethin', although many complains are way too early for that (on the first day there have been complains about some jobs being not good enough at primae battles for example!)

    how can you say when you played the job for 2 hours?!


    suggestions are okay. but i say some days after patch are way too early.. and many voices from the community are way too "overdone"




    seriously if i would be within the development team and would read somethin like that i would say "F*** you"

    it is always very nice if at least there is SOME good feedback about your work..
    not? well im glad about that if my hard work is being appreciated by others.. so in each job.


    sorry to say, but your comment is really ignorant. doesnt speak for you.
    and i just wanted to state.. that the jobs are MUCH more fun, than the classes pre 1.19.
    so there is a good tendency


    and if i read comments like yours.. people really seem to forget about that. blizzard for example doesnt take that many suggestions from the players themselves. they do their thing.
    Yea well, that is why you are not a professional developer then^^ Thankfully for you too, because that moment you typed that "F*** you" it would be the moment you lost your job if the company was even a tiny bit serious^^ They are professionals for a reason. Whining should not and WILL not phase them. They review suggestions/"whines" carefully, make no mistake, and they decide how to proceed.

    The ultimate "Thank you" and appreciation they receive for their work rests with the subscription numbers the game has and whether or not they are steady and/or keep rising. Kissy-assy "Thank you" threads are not needed. They might be welcome when they are true but not needed, and MOST CERTAINLY not expected^^ It's the way this industry works you know.

    You're taking this too personally for some reason.
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    Last edited by Razen_Arghast; 03-22-2012 at 12:45 AM.

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    Complaints not complains, just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Also, not hating to much, but it is their job at end of day, do you say Thank you to the bin men? or Thank you to the Ticket guy at the Train Station? He allowed you to go from A to B on the super rail way!
    I always do. Doesn't matter if it's the bagger at the grocery store or the waiter or the janitor - thanking people can make their day.
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    I tell them thank you... I even started the thread where Yoshi said "I love you guys....
    But...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    I imagine my money is a fair thank you.
    this^^^

    Quote Originally Posted by Sephrick View Post
    I give them money each month. I'm sure that's tank you enough considering the game still is half crap.
    and this^^^^

    I've sent positive messages to the dev team via this forum... but in no way was I obligated to do these things...
    No one OBLIGATED thank someone who performs a service they pay for.
    Business' survive on Money... not on gratitude
    Every day we take the power company for granted
    The government
    The guys risking their lives on offshore drilling rigs so you can drive your crappy little hyundai

    Yes.. there are very negative people out there... but you know what... thats the world we live in... I don't know why you would expect a mildly massive multiplayer online game (Or the internet for that matter) to not reflect the world it represents.
    People complain at the grocery store... on facebook... in the blogs... on TV... why would you expect to not see it here?
    Is this supposed to be the one safe haven from an extremely common trait shared by many people

    I like this game... I think the team is doing a good job.
    But in this business... there will always be negative comments, people and reviews.

    I make music for a living and some of my friends HATE some of the music I make.... It doesn't stop my stride...

    The Dev team is grown... they get paychecks every week, in a very competitive field, at a company thats probably considered the dream job for most game designers

    I know people keep saying "People don't thank them because people aren't polite"
    or "I thank my trash men"
    guess what? The are working for a decent paycheck, and thats the only thing that makes them not hate their jobs

    Go send gift baskets to all the people working at the sewage plant because your toilet flushes every time.
    Go thank the FDA because your food doesn't kill you

    Honestly, the "Yoshi I hope you feel better, don't work yourself too hard" is just as annoying as the complaints....

    tl;dr The fact of the matter is... The DEV team is doing their JOB... Contrary to what you people think, they are not even going above and beyond... Right now they are working hard to just be considered ADEQUATE. If they don't feel appreciated at work.. if their boss doesn't make them feel important, then you know what? welcome to everyone else's life
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    I always do. Doesn't matter if it's the bagger at the grocery store or the waiter or the janitor - thanking people can make their day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eruantien View Post
    Maybe you don't, I do, its only polite to say thank you.
    If you thank all of these random people, you're a tool

    If I was mopping the damn floor and some random person thanked me... It would feel condescending... I'd be offended and want to punch you

    You: "Thank you for cleaning the shit off of this toilet, you provide a valuable service"
    Me as a janitor: "Thank you for shutting the hell up"

    when did the world become so pretentious and douchey?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alise View Post
    Because we never need to thank Microsoft for their window 7.
    and never need to thank Apple for their Iphone ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    If you thank all of these random people, you're a tool

    If I was mopping the damn floor and some random person thanked me... It would feel condescending... I'd be offended and want to punch you

    You: "Thank you for cleaning the shit off of this toilet, you provide a valuable service"
    Me as a janitor: "Thank you for shutting the hell up"

    when did the world become so pretentious and douchey?
    Cool stuff. You're actually the asshole they talk about when they get home. Some of us have had to work hard from top-to-bottom and can appreciate the experiences we've had. I'm actually going to hope that you never have to experience this - instead, maybe your children and spouse. Maybe your parents can end up in an assisted living facility and the unappreciated nurses can do a horrible job, increasing their pain and suffering. It seems like the idea of common courtesy and compassion is lost on you so here's to hoping you can learn these lessons by watching the people you care about suffer. After all - this is the kind of world you want ^^ /cheers!

    P.S. - Sweet Chael Sonnen impression.
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    Last edited by Yves; 03-22-2012 at 01:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masamune1004 View Post
    A thank you thread won't improve this game, but a complaint thread might hold valuable feedback to improve something in the game. Thank yous are nice but remember that complaints are necessary to make this game good. I mean if nobody complained about paladin being weak, SE wouldn't be improving it right now.
    where have i written that we need to open topics which are about "thank you SE, you are so great?" right.. no where...
    i never talked about that we have to "thank" SE for the work... or open "thank you threads"...

    i just said that most opinions which we could see within the topics are really "overdone"


    Quote Originally Posted by Razen_Arghast View Post
    Yea well, that is why you are not a professional developer then^^ Thankfully for you too, because that moment you typed that "F*** you" it would be the moment you lost your job if the company was even a tiny bit serious^^

    you are really naive if you think that they at least think that sometimes. of course no developer would say so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    i never talked about that we have to "thank" SE for the work... or open "thank you threads"...

    i just said that most opinions which we could see within the topics are really "overdone"
    my how the tables have turned, look whos complaining now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    Cool stuff. You're actually the asshole they talk about when they get home. Some of us have had to work hard from top-to-bottom and can appreciate the experiences we've had. I'm actually going to hope that you never have to experience this - instead, maybe your children and spouse. Maybe your parents can end up in an assisted living facility and the unappreciated nurses can do a horrible job, increasing their pain and suffering. It seems like the idea of common courtesy and compassion is lost on you so here's to hoping you can learn these lessons by watching the people you care about suffer. After all - this is the kind of world you want ^^ /cheers!

    P.S. - Sweet Chael Sonnen impression.
    Pearls before Swine, my friend. So sad but true.

    To the ass**** who thinks paying = thanking, let me ask you this: have you ever tipped a waiter or waitress at a restaurant or barista at a coffeeshop? Why?
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