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    Player
    Rhais's Avatar
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    May 2014
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    Character
    Sophie Miret-njer
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Talking with my friend the other night, we were discussing how uncreative a lot of the ShB changes were; in particular Delirium being a IR clone comes to mind. Even a lot of the jobs as a whole feel too simplified. Bard, Astro—though the healers as a whole suffer in this regard. And it all comes down to this. They desperately need some fresh ideas, and frankly, more people to help execute them. Shadowbringer has really highlighted this because I cannot recall a period where so many jobs have been hit or miss.
    What you are describing is intentional, I don't think it's so much a lack of fresh ideas as much as deliberately simplifying all jobs and making all jobs within the roles function in a similar manner.
    I suppose they are going for accessibility and job balance, but it certainly is making combat less engaging in my opinion.
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    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
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    Character
    Sharl Llyntine
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    SAM>NIN>SMN>AST in that order.

    For SAM, it's just ridiculous to have a no utility job be weaker than those with utility. What's the point?

    AST is last in the list because I feel it's actually really strong right now. It needs a buff to MP management but other than that it's very strong. What people are asking for is more along the lines of a rework for cards, and that won't happen till at least next expansion.
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    Noshpan's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Ganth Fyrion
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Based upon my observation I think AST, NIN, SAM need more tweaking. I've heard from plenty of former NIN players of their issues, but the job is getting better. Same with AST. GNB could at least have the issue with Superbolide addressed. Naturally, DNC will be receiving constant tweaking during the expansion.

    As a RDM main, I will say that Reprise is terribly underwhelming, but it's a job that I've accepted as "used during progression but not during clears".
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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    Lalarrific's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Rose Blaidd'drwg
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 53
    Bard. Right now, it lacks an identity.
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    ~With a spring in my step, and a song in my heart~

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    Hatstand's Avatar
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    Character
    Jenny Davar
    World
    Kujata
    Main Class
    Weaver Lv 70
    Any healer. Any of them. Not for potencies, but for engagement. I’m fully prepared to believe that NIN and SMN feel bad to play right now, and they need fixes, but at least there are fun and powerful jobs available within their roles. The entire healer role is such a bore right now. Make any one of them fun and engaging with interesting things to fill their downtime with and a high skill ceiling and we can play that while the dps classes get their fixes and we wait on the other healers to get fixed after that.

    (Preferably AST, since that’s in the worst place of all the healers at the moment, but any would do).
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