Leveling is way to boring (70-80)

[Missbone]

I wish there would be more variety of reasonable options to lvl your char. Right now there are only 3 daily roulettes that are worth the time and the normal dungeons.

You could maybe count until 73 HoH (21-30) in, because it gives nearly the same xp as the 71 dungeon (in the same time) if you include the waiting time.

They should add another deep or rework the xp you get from them and frontlines in a way that scales with your lvl and is equal to dungeons. Maybe 2 (or 2 1/2) frontlines or HoH = Dungeon.

It would be cool if there where some kind of Mini Games that give you a bit xp while you spend your time in the que. Also it would be really nice if i could que up for frontline roulette and dungeons at the same time (in fact queing for more than one roulette at the same time would be great).

[MeowingKittens]

Do your daily hunts from Clan Nutsy (this is like 5 mill + a day) and then Fates while you wait on queues.

Ananta and Koijin tribe dailies will also bet you about a mill each per day.

You have plenty of options. This isn’t like early ARR where dailies didn’t exist, dungeons gave very little, and you had to resort to hours and hours of fates to make progress.

[Enla]

They really can't rework Frontlines in a meaningful way because it'll just flood the mode with bots again. That's the main reason it's experience gains were nerfed the first time. There were /way/ too many matches where bots would just sit and feed the other team because even last place provided enough experience to be worth it to the bot runner. I'd love it if it was a worthwhile avenue to gain experience, as it was perhaps my favorite way to level some classes I otherwise despised in PVE, but unless SE finds better ways to discourage the bot players aside from vigilance on the part of the people they queue with it's just not going to happen.

At least this time around Fates are legitimately worth the hassle and provide a decent enough change in pace to be a good break from roulettes from 70-80. Though I honestly wouldn't mind if they took a page from GW2 and gave us a few more 'joke' fates like their Renowned Hearts to further break up the monotony. Where there's more than one way to contribute and not all of them are combat focused, like instead of defeating invading spiders you can clear away their webs instead if you want to, or do both or neither and instead pursue a third or even fourth option. I wouldn't want SE to go ham on something like that and I don't know how well it'd fit but I do remember the Renowned Hearts pretty fondly from my time back in GW2 because they made the leveling grind a bit less soul crushing.

All that said, like Meowing put it though we do have options at the very least. They might not all be enticing but you can rotate between them if one bothers you more than the others on a particular day.

[TwiibieTwuu]

Boosting exp gained from fates would be nice. Feels like you get too little for the time they take to do.

[KageTokage]

Trusts while a bit repetitive are by far the best way to level DPS classes by virtue of letting you skip the oft-lengthy queue times.

[Missbone]

Hm i never really bothered with these clan hunts. I just looked at them once when they where introduced into the game. They looked way to confusing and time consuming for me for the little xp they gave, so i never tried them again since the.
As for the trust system, i heard that once you die its a complete wipe and you need to start over. Thats a no go for me so i never touched it. And for the Fates i see it like Twiibie they need a Xp boost, they give way to little for the time it takes to finish one solo at your current lvl.

But i like the idea of some funny minigames like in GW2 or maybe like some dailies in WoW where you have to do a bombing run or just some delivery from point a to point b without fighting but with a time window.

[Nemmar]

Yup. Leveling can be approached in several ways. You skip things without trying at your own risk.

Part of the game in this game is finding the most efficient way to level things for yourself/your play style.

IMO it's something that other games made us lose, by always pointing us to one and one path only. Playing FFXIV really made me aware and broke me free from the western MMO conventions. Not saying this is your case, but it was mine.

[Missbone]

I guess you can say that i'm guilty of always looking for the most efficient way and hate it when i get the feeling of wasting my time (and i clearly get that from fates). Don't get me wrong i also think there are already some nice other things in game that you could do besides Roulettes and normal Dungeons (like Squadron or the fates) but there are way to inefficient and i really have a hard time to understand why SE can't fix that (they just need to raise the xp reward for most of those stuff).

[KageTokage]

As for the trust system, i heard that once you die its a complete wipe and you need to start over..

If you get KO'd, you get booted to the start of the dungeon instantly with no chance to be revived.

The trusts compensate for it with slightly overpowered heals that basically ensure you'll never die if you aren't getting one-shot or pulling too many mobs at the same time, though.

[Reap00]

I do FATES, all roulettes, hunts, and trusts daily. I am 8 levels from every job at 80. If you don't want to do it that is up to you. This way does work though and works well. Oh one more thing. I have never been bored during this process.