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  1. #11
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    WhimsicalPacifist's Avatar
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    Brynhildn Frostwyght
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Black Mage does not need to heal nor tank. My BLM can pull a few mobs, Sleep them and casually toss wakeup FIRE in their face one at a time. If you actually look at the other DPS they also have utilities directly linked to survival at low levels. Arcanist has Physick and Titan's shield which is not a panic button.
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  2. #12
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    Samsta's Avatar
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    Character
    Amael Yuki
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by WhimsicalPacifist View Post
    Black Mage does not need to heal nor tank. My BLM can pull a few mobs, Sleep them and casually toss wakeup FIRE in their face one at a time. If you actually look at the other DPS they also have utilities directly linked to survival at low levels. Arcanist has Physick and Titan's shield which is not a panic button.
    Or you can pull them one at a time? Even if they are linked you can survive like 3 mobs for 20 seconds. overworld soloing is extremely easy in ffxiv.
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  3. #13
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    AvenoMatt's Avatar
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    Character
    Avnus Vabruyt
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    I think I may make a new character or run some fates solo just to test this out because ACN shouldn't be that bad at low levels. Titan gives you a 20% shield and you have Physic and though Physic scales off Mind the gear you get at that low gives you both Intelligence and Mind so your heals should be good enough to keep you alive. Plus if they waited 3 more levels they would of gotten Fester at 18 which would be their best dps ability.
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  4. #14
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    Lorim's Avatar
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    Character
    Kaenel Artelus
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    Sagittarius
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 31
    I agree with OP, New player souldn't start with ARC right now.

    I'm an old player who stopped then came back a few timesince the V1.
    During Hw/SB i played Summoner with great pleasure and it was an easy class to solo with.

    I came back for Shadow bringer, but beofere starting i read a little about the expansion and the change, so i choose to start from zero on a new server.

    I choose ARC, since summoner was my favorite class for a long time.

    First suprise when i started was : "WTH where are my DPS? it take too long to kill mobs and i'm friggin fragile!"
    Oh well, my friend Carby will make up for that..... And here came the second surprise : "What?!!! is not clickable anymore?!! he doesn't get aggro?!!!.... And what the f*** is this f***** AOE?! he pull too many mobs!!!!"
    So, i started to farm xp like mad to get Topaz, my little cute personal Tank.... And here come the third surprise..... A crappy pet who doen't generate aggro with no DPS and a useles Shield with a long CD and which is token down in one hit.... i was bewildered

    I still decided to start the Class Quest on the boat. This one always been a little technical in the past, not hard, but was a great tuto on how to use your tank pet.

    And, what isaw was several mission faill because, since Topaz can't tank anymore, have bad DPS and you have yourself a low DPS now, the NPC was dying very very quickly....

    So i deleted the character and started this one.... And you know what? It was ten time more easier and quicker to play with a healer..... Ironic no?

    So yeah, there is actually a massive problem with ARC/SMN.... this "rework" wasn't well prepared at all, in fact i even have doubt that it was tested at all by SE.
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    Last edited by Lorim; 09-08-2019 at 04:52 PM.

  5. #15
    Player
    Dyvid's Avatar
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracan_Fontom View Post
    This js definitely an over exaggeration. I literally did low level fates the other day to do my Zenith ARR relic weapon and had absolutely no problem completing them alone. Was it boring? Yea, I'm level 15 spamming a whooping 5 skills, of course it'll get stale.
    Same, I had no issue at all doing Lv.15-20 FATE.
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  6. #16
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    Sequora's Avatar
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    Character
    Raveen Raines
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Most jobs are really boring before 50+ at this point.
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  7. #17
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    Samsta's Avatar
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    Character
    Amael Yuki
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorim View Post
    I agree with OP, New player souldn't start with ARC right now.

    I'm an old player who stopped then came back a few timesince the V1.
    During Hw/SB i played Summoner with great pleasure and it was an easy class to solo with.

    I came back for Shadow bringer, but beofere starting i read a little about the expansion and the change, so i choose to start from zero on a new server.

    I choose ARC, since summoner was my favorite class for a long time.

    First suprise when i started was : "WTH where are my DPS? it take too long to kill mobs and i'm friggin fragile!"
    Oh well, my friend Carby will make up for that..... And here came the second surprise : "What?!!! is not clickable anymore?!! he doesn't get aggro?!!!.... And what the f*** is this f***** AOE?! he pull too many mobs!!!!"
    So, i started to farm xp like mad to get Topaz, my little cute personal Tank.... And here come the third surprise..... A crappy pet who doen't generate aggro with no DPS and a useles Shield with a long CD and which is token down in one hit.... i was bewildered

    I still decided to start the Class Quest on the boat. This one always been a little technical in the past, not hard, but was a great tuto on how to use your tank pet.

    And, what isaw was several mission faill because, since Topaz can't tank anymore, have bad DPS and you have yourself a low DPS now, the NPC was dying very very quickly....

    So i deleted the character and started this one.... And you know what? It was ten time more easier and quicker to play with a healer..... Ironic no?

    So yeah, there is actually a massive problem with ARC/SMN.... this "rework" wasn't well prepared at all, in fact i even have doubt that it was tested at all by SE.
    The 5 yalm aoe of emerald carbuncle shouldn't pull you any more mobs if you pull them one by one, and if by some miracle it does you can handle like 2 mobs. Stop blowing things out of proportion.
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  8. #18
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    CrimsonGunner's Avatar
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    Character
    Mike Arklight
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 92
    i started playing at this expansion and my first job was ACN.
    his job quests aren't that difficult to do.
    "ACN boring"- might be cause its low level.
    "carbuncle not what you expect"- fine its a pet that doesn't take agro it's not that big of deal and people can handle agro fine with kiting.
    the ACN kit is fine for low levels,its not hard, pet by your side.
    true the npc in the boat quest can die easily and fast but just kill mobs fast,heal the npc and you can pass it.its not that big of an issue to do the ACN jobs as you make it out to be.
    if your friend was talking about the ACN advance jobs ,i could understand but disqualify straight from ACN job quest is kinda odd or he didn't really bother to learn his skills also if he doesn't want to go through it just tell him to buy the job jump from mog station.
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    Last edited by CrimsonGunner; 09-09-2019 at 02:43 AM.

  9. #19
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorim View Post
    So yeah, there is actually a massive problem with ARC/SMN.... this "rework" wasn't well prepared at all, in fact i even have doubt that it was tested at all by SE.
    I kinda feel the same about that, just like many/most jobs dont have any aoe till 38.... it hurts so much.
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  10. #20
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    Lorim's Avatar
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    Kaenel Artelus
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    Sagittarius
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 31
    Quote Originally Posted by Samsta View Post
    The 5 yalm aoe of emerald carbuncle shouldn't pull you any more mobs if you pull them one by one, and if by some miracle it does you can handle like 2 mobs. Stop blowing things out of proportion.
    I don't blow things out of proportion.... Because, before this rework, Summon always had AOE but i never got this problem.... Why?
    Because you could fully control them.... Which it's not the case anymore.... They just do what they want!

    The summon now feel like Mascot with attack.... the Chocobo is ten more a pet then any summon of the Summoner :/

    Way to go for a pet Classe/Job....
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    Last edited by Lorim; 09-09-2019 at 01:15 AM.

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