Has PVP Gone to the Dogs?!?!?

[BloodRubyXII]

This is nothing new mate, lol.

[Avenger]

I started playing PvP (usually 72p) informally in ARR. It was bad then - no strategy, no communication, and everyone splitting up, running around randomly, ignoring objectives, getting into pointless fights, and dying.

Heavensward and Stormblood were about the same, and Shadowbringers is no different as far as I can tell.

I wish there were some system to help teams work together, to help people learn to play PvP, and to help people who want to practice and get better at it.

I like the idea of PvP, but it is hardly ever fun in any way.

[Wyvernheart]

Players will harken unto the strong. In this age of dog eat dog, one most be a Diamond Dog. Kept you waiting huh?

[KageTokage]

An increase in PvP bots may also be the reason for this change in behavior as people are likely desperate to get their Garo stuff done and from what I've heard they generally do not go after objectives and instead focus entirely on kills (Which they can be frighteningly efficient at if there are multiple DPS bots on the same team as they'll unfailingly go after the same target as one another should they be in close proximity).

[Saintly]

Nothing wrong playing for kills if you got a solid team that can keep switching between enemy factions wiping them in waves.
The biggest problem currently is that there's too many uh... (not gonna use the word i want cause ill get banned again) "interesting" players trying to leech Garo wins on both Feast and FL.

When someone see a team that's like 70% clueless Garo leechers why should one tryhard to win?
Instead one can relax and enjoy one self or just train his rotations and stuff or even see how many kills he can get in a single match.

If anything i hope we never see a PvP event like Garo again.
If they want to reward people who win they can just hand out rewards to those who won X matches in last X months/weeks.

[NessaWyvern]

My group of friends who do PvP has always, focused on getting kills more than doing objectives, even since HW. Simply because its often more fun. It can help out the team though, as we get a lot of battle highs, and hunt down enemy battle highs.
Don't get me wrong, we still do objectives, and stay with the group, but we'll be the ones killing enemies who are trying to get to those objectives.

[Nova_Rox]

I find the opposite. Too much "DON'T FIGHT GO FOR OBJECTIVES ONLY" meanwhile the other teams are farming highs.

[Strywin]

I find the opposite. Too much "DON'T FIGHT GO FOR OBJECTIVES ONLY" meanwhile the other teams are farming highs.

Yes, and then we all " Pikachu shocked face. " when they come wreck us with their adrenaline spam.

[Nova_Rox]

Yes, and then we all " Pikachu shocked face. " when they come wreck us with their adrenaline spam.

Sounds about XIV community

[Duskane]

well considering a wolf and many wolf related titles are in feast id say pvp gone to the dogs a very long time ago