Chest System - Eden Savage

[Spectrum]

Are people actually cool with this system? I get that it deters selling Savage content, but it seems really detrimental to everyone else. People get really mad if it isn't a 2 chest run, so if you aren't lucky with your first run of the week, you gotta run it with different people that haven't cleared that week, every other time. Good luck trying to find anyone to run it that hasn't cleared that week just before the reset, except new people. Really counters people's usual static groups they've been running savage content with for years too.

Worst system ever implemented? What are your thoughts?

I know there are probably already threads about this, but I want to hear more of an uproar about this dumb system, lol. Let me know if I'm missing something good about this system. Help me change my mind if you think it's a good system to have in Savage content.

[Jonnycbad]

It's better system overall. No gear goes to waste. Sure, weeks might pass where you don't win anything, but weeks may pass where you win everything. It has been figured out that this system is mathematically more beneficial to players.

[Noitems]

Happy that the books are still a thing. But the problem is for early progression it's absolutely soul crushing as a pug.

Like knowing that you won't get an assured accessory until four weeks in is pretty baffling. The issue is less a of a problem as a static but facing 7 other people for rng where one person can win them all, it's rough.

[Vnolan]

OP is talking about losing one or both chests if multiple people have already cleared for the week.

Are people actually cool with this system? I get that it deters selling Savage content, but it seems really detrimental to everyone else.

Which is funny, because the new loot system and world visit make it easier than ever to sell loot.

I don't know how you could fix the system. If you made it personal loot that has a set chance of dropping into a player's inventory upon a clear, there would be the chance that lucky groups had all members receive a piece of gear.

At the very least I'd like to see them allow players to complete floors in any order after they've been cleared once and have practice mode award pages that count as the weekly but no chests, with chests still able to be rolled on in non-practice.

[DrWho2010]

the system is designed to not gear up people quickly. you have 6 MONTHS or so before next tier.

[lunar_seraphim]

I really enjoy this new system. I have a static though and we have a system in place where you only lot on an item if it is your BiS. We're all very close to being BiS for our main jobs and gear is already going to our secondary jobs. I haven't raided since the days of Coil and not seeing a ton of gear go to waste is refreshing. Can't tell you how many Ninja items dropped for us when we never had a Ninja in our party.

[LalaRu]

Are people actually cool with this system? I get that it deters selling Savage content, but it seems really detrimental to everyone else. People get really mad if it isn't a 2 chest run, so if you aren't lucky with your first run of the week, you gotta run it with different people that haven't cleared that week, every other time. Good luck trying to find anyone to run it that hasn't cleared that week just before the reset, except new people. Really counters people's usual static groups they've been running savage content with for years too.

Worst system ever implemented? What are your thoughts?

I think you are trying to blame the game for your choice to run savage as a lone wolf.

Loot system is great, nothing is wasted, and statics are all happy about it. After all, Savage is intended for skilled and organized players. You decided to run away it and PUG it all the way. Your rightful choice but you need weight the consequences.

Continue running it as lone wolf or find a static? Your choice.

[Samsta]

I think it's better, especially for statics that can plan their gear, no random drops or drops that go to waste. For pugs your chances are pretty much the same as before. I hope they keep it.

[Kazenone]

Personally I really want them to go back to the old system. I've been trying to enjoy savage without a group (due to unpredictable schedules) but even after so many weeks, I'm still rolling against 8 people because everybody still rolls Need because they'll use the gear on their second/third job.

After 6 clears of E1S and 5 clears of E2S, I've rolled on 38 items and obtained 1. All my gear upgrades have had to come from tomes alone.

[Vidu]

Personally I really want them to go back to the old system. I've been trying to enjoy savage without a group (due to unpredictable schedules) but even after so many weeks, I'm still rolling against 8 people because everybody still rolls Need because they'll use the gear on their second/third job.

After 6 clears of E1S and 5 clears of E2S, I've rolled on 38 items and obtained 1. All my gear upgrades have had to come from tomes alone.

How would have 6 clears of E1S with no loot-drops for your class at all been better than the current system? Given its all RNG thats a very real possibitly - so, how would have 6 weeks with tank-belts that all drop to the floor been better than 6 weeks of at least one person getting what they need for a job they play?