Tanks that want to take it slow?

[Zfz]

When I heal, or really when I play any role, I take pride in being able to adapt to whatever style the group prefers or needs. People who try to make it sound like tanks who take it slow are a plague and are losers who don't want to "improve" (lol at that idea) are just trying to force their idea of fun onto other people.

Bottom line, the DF is where you take what you get. Anyone trying to enforce a certain playstyle needs to do it through the PF. Want wall-to-wall pulls on every run? Go to the PF. Want single pack pulls every run? Do PF. Want to just heal and never dps? Go to the PF. Want every healer to always do their optimal dps? Go to the PF.

You sign up for the DF? You take what you get and deal with it. That's my opinion regarding this matter.

[Yrantis]

When I heal, or really when I play any role, I take pride in being able to adapt to whatever style the group prefers or needs. People who try to make it sound like tanks who take it slow are a plague and are losers who don't want to "improve" (lol at that idea) are just trying to force their idea of fun onto other people.

Bottom line, the DF is where you take what you get. Anyone trying to enforce a certain playstyle needs to do it through the PF. Want wall-to-wall pulls on every run? Go to the PF. Want single pack pulls every run? Do PF. Want to just heal and never dps? Go to the PF. Want every healer to always do their optimal dps? Go to the PF.

You sign up for the DF? You take what you get and deal with it. That's my opinion regarding this matter.

This feels hypocritical to me. If you take what you get and deal with it, does that not extend to people who want to pull quickly? I guaranteed you 9/10 runs 3/4 members in your group will want to fast pull. I haven't done enough instances to be some kind of ultra "expert" or anything but I've probably run close to 3-400 in this game, and I've never met a single individual who disliked multiple pulls EXCEPT if they were still trying to learn, which everybody has stated repeatedly is just fine. As a counterpoint to your point I suppose, if you queue up and want to slow pull and everyone else does resents you for it and you still try to make them do it, then yes, you are the jerk in that situation. You can hem and haw about people "forcing their playstyle" on other people but it's a multiplayer game: nearly everybody playing it is going to want to spend as little time as possible grinding content they've previously completed, potentially dozens of times.

You're the only one discussing forcing playstyles on people by trying to make them "adapt". Yes, if 3/4 people in a DF want slowpulls you should go along with it, but that is so absurdly infrequent it's not even worth discussing. What is WAY more likely is the person who wants slow pulls forcing their playstyle on everyone else. When they CAN'T do any better because they're bad or learning, nothing you can do about it, that's perfectly alright and most people here probably wouldn't balk. But if you're in a dungeon you've cleared several times, on a class you've gotten to max level, and you get in a DF and CHOOSE to go slow, most people are going to be rightly upset at you for slowing them down.

Don't like it? It's DF, you take what you get and deal with it. That's how it goes right?

[Zfz]

This feels hypocritical to me. If you take what you get and deal with it, does that not extend to people who want to pull quickly?

Yes. That's why I'm fine with both. If you read my comment. I do what the group wants. There's nothing hypocritical about it. I practise what I say.

[Yrantis]

Yes. That's why I'm fine with both. If you read my comment. I do what the group wants. There's nothing hypocritical about it. I practise what I say.

That's consistent if nothing else, but saying the individual should adapt to the group in a multiplayer game is...exactly how the people who get mad at slow pullers feel. I'd be amazed to meet anybody who found a group that was the other way around at high levels. I don't think anybody here is talking about Satasha when they get mad at slow pullers, they're probably talking about people pulling one group at a time in Mt. Gulg.