Monk Role needs Changes

[Lunavi]

I am not complaining that it is too hard to beat at launch, I am not even complaining that some jobs literally could not deliver the numbers needed of them at launch while any average MNK or BLM could fly past that check, what I am pointing out though is that in a reality where some jobs can't pass a DPS check, fixing the best job in the game isn't the thing the dev team needs to focus on right now. This is not a "git gud" problem, it is a balancing problem, and if you can't grasp this due to your personal crying over your MNK not being what you want it to be while some jobs barely are allowed into endgame, then I don't think there is any further point to having a discussion with you about class balancing.

[Sonya_Nillefrant]

I am not complaining that it is too hard to beat at launch, I am not even complaining that some jobs literally could not deliver the numbers needed of them at launch while any average MNK or BLM could fly past that check, what I am pointing out though is that in a reality where some jobs can't pass a DPS check, fixing the best job in the game isn't the thing the dev team needs to focus on right now. This is not a "git gud" problem, it is a balancing problem, and if you can't grasp this due to your personal crying over your MNK not being what you want it to be while some jobs barely are allowed into endgame, then I don't think there is any further point to having a discussion with you about class balancing.

I agree mostly with what you say. Your view points are off topic and u are like a brick wall in a conversation. The topic is what changes can be done to monk to fix its kit and get rid of all its clunkyness.

Everything else is vaguely irrelevant.

Im not asking about wheather it should happen, its a hypothetical if it does happen this is what id like to see.

And that's what you are not grasping.

Toss dps tower, endgame class nonexistence, nerf nerf nerf out the window. They are not what this conversation is about.

You're so focused on one line of my rant that you're ignoring everything else.

[Sonya_Nillefrant]

Im gonna try to keep these threads going for as long as possible.

If enough is said, by enough people, change can happen.

[Lunavi]

Im not asking about wheather it should happen, its a hypothetical if it does happen this is what id like to see..

*reads the topic title* Sounds very much like that is exactly what you are asking for from this to me, and from the tone of the topic as well. The tone of the topic is actually such that it sounds like you expect SE to drop everything else in terms of class balancing to focus on MNK ASAP, which is what I react to when there are so much direr things to take care of in terms of class balancing that actually prevents people from playing the jobs they like. Like I said, your changes I have nothing against, it is that you seem to think that this is something they should do now mid expansion when huge mid expansion changes are basically only happening when something is extremely dysfunctional. But I said a couple of replies ago that these are changes that I think are indeed good, but that I feel like they are better off changing other things now mid expansion.

Once again, my tone and reaction on this topic comes off the tone of the topic that makes me feel like you consider this to be a "drop everything you are doing SE and fix this now" issue.