Can we please ban advertisements for selling clears from PF?

[TheLittlestLala]

I'd like to open my party finder just once without being reminded that people actually pay money for this.

[Kaedan]

If you mean they are paying real money, then yes, that's already a bannable offense. If you see an ad for clear for real money, you can report that player.

If you're talking about gil, then there's nothing against the rules about that. If that's how people want to spend their gil, then that's their choice.

[Lambdafish]

What Kaeden said is absolutely correct.

The ingame economy supports players exchanging goods and services. Buying a clear from a player is no different than buying an item from them, or paying them to overmeld your gear. It's how the gil is obtained that is the biggest point of contention, and the RMT argument is completely separate from the "buying clears" argument.

Whether that makes it fair or right that players should be allowed to be carried through content is a reasonable debate, but as far as terms of service goes, its perfectly valid, and will never be banned.

[KarstenS]

Whether that makes it fair or right that players should be allowed to be carried through content is a reasonable debate, but as far as terms of service goes, its perfectly valid, and will never be banned.

As it is long ago, when content, that gets advertised for selling, was doable by 7 man or less, its not a carry, that gets advertised.

The point: account sharing.

So with the T&C in mind, this service is not "perfectly valid".

[TheLittlestLala]

If you mean they are paying real money, then yes, that's already a bannable offense. If you see an ad for clear for real money, you can report that player.

If you're talking about gil, then there's nothing against the rules about that. If that's how people want to spend their gil, then that's their choice.

I've noticed that every single one of these things says "add on discord for info", which is basically code for "pay us real money".

[Lunavi]

As long as no real $$$ is involved I could not care less and am actually encouraging of run-selling as it keeps the economy flowing both ways. Once Gil gets involved though, yeah there is a problem. It is, however, impossible to prove this as they handle all money related business through discord.

[Hasrat]

I'd settle for restricting PF recruiting ilvl settings to have a maximum value no greater than current ilvl cap. Being allowed to set up a recruitment that restricts all players from actually joining is dumb. At least if they're forced to set it to cap, any group of end-game players could just go through joining and filling all the parties so they get removed from the list if they so desired.

[Rasikko]

Have used PF once in like...4yrs? Recently. Someone needed to clear an old dungeon and it was buried under blankets of advert PFs. I think you can get stuck waiting, if people cant be bothered to scroll past 10 PFs.

[SerLuke]

I'd settle for restricting PF recruiting ilvl settings to have a maximum value no greater than current ilvl cap. Being allowed to set up a recruitment that restricts all players from actually joining is dumb. At least if they're forced to set it to cap, any group of end-game players could just go through joining and filling all the parties so they get removed from the list if they so desired.

Or just restrict it to the player’s ilvl

[Zyneste]

Id say it's bannable if the person asks for your contact or provides theirs in order to discuss terms outside of the game.

This stops account sharing and stops RMT.

If they can sell the content to you, they should be able to do it with 7 people plus a grey percentile player [someone purposefully doing nothing.]

There is another problem with it though, providing a service like this can create situations for even gil scamming, since you aren't using the in game trade for half of the deal [the service.]