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  1. #11
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    Grimoire-M's Avatar
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    Grimoire Mogri
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    Hyperion
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    The pet AI hasn’t changed since the time they made Obey commands work during a cast. Bahamut/Phoenix are permanently stuck on Heel and have their auto attacks disabled, and the Egi inherited their lack of HP, aggro,or collision. The Egi Assault rework went fine. They just made everything into Enkindle, undoing that first change retroactively. The easiest fix is to source the proc from the Summoner, not the pet. And even then I don’t think it would leave people happy.

    I have to wonder if they’ll consider giving Bahamut the same treatment as Phoenix and move into Demi-Themed spells next expansion.
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  2. #12
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    dinnertime's Avatar
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    Aurelius Lyon
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 90
    They should definitely give Bahamut the Phoenix treatment along with any future Demi summons since it'll make the phases feel a lot better, but they also need to compensate for the lack of mobility and weaving phases we'll lose, and the longer downtime waits.
    We've already lost one Dreadwyrm Trance for Phoenix that SMN suddenly went from most mobile to least mobile caster. If they actually planted the Demi summons in place then maybe mobility won't be an issue anymore, but Egi Assault weaving for the most part would be without the reliability of Dreadwyrm Trance.
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  3. #13
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    Raveen Raines
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by dinnertime View Post
    They should definitely give Bahamut the Phoenix treatment along with any future Demi summons since it'll make the phases feel a lot better, but they also need to compensate for the lack of mobility and weaving phases we'll lose, and the longer downtime waits.
    We've already lost one Dreadwyrm Trance for Phoenix that SMN suddenly went from most mobile to least mobile caster. If they actually planted the Demi summons in place then maybe mobility won't be an issue anymore, but Egi Assault weaving for the most part would be without the reliability of Dreadwyrm Trance.
    If they combine dreadwyrm with bahamut they should decrease the CD to 50 seconds. This would fix a lot of things. Tri disaster would have a 100% uptime.
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  4. #14
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Phoenix
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    I just hope they would put 2 charges into Dreadwyrm Trance. That would fix multiple issues we have right now.

    It would make
    - downtime more rewarding
    - more room adjust devotion timers and burst in general
    - more flexability into tri disaster(not need use tri disaster and stance into same second)
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    Last edited by Sunako; 09-15-2019 at 07:41 AM.

  5. #15
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    Sid Zarkovitch
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    Be ready for WAR 4.1 changes

    Egi assault in one button BOOM

    DOTS in one button BOOM
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  6. #16
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    Athaleiya Eclesiance
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarkovitch View Post
    Be ready for WAR 4.1 changes

    Egi assault in one button BOOM

    DOTS in one button BOOM
    I mean, would it be the worst thing for Tri-disaster to be the only thing used for DoT application? Manually reapplying the DoTs feels like the most tedious part of the job to me.
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  7. #17
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    Mansion Viscera
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    Louisoix
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Coltvoyance View Post
    I mean, would it be the worst thing for Tri-disaster to be the only thing used for DoT application? Manually reapplying the DoTs feels like the most tedious part of the job to me.
    It happens once every two minutes, it's not so bad. And it's a (quite welcome) weaving opportunity.
    As bland and uninspired as it seems, I'd be ok with Egi Assault being used on CD by the Egi in sic mode, so I only have to manage my Ruin IV stacks.
    That or Ruin III being 1.5second cast.

    Essentially, I would not mind SMN to remain a busy job, I'd actually prefer to see this effort rewarded by higher DPS contribution rather that making the rotation easier to the point that it might become boring.
    But then, the core problem is still Demi animation locks, action ghosting and stuff like that. I'm not sure they mentioned any fixing in that regard, just "making it less busy"
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  8. #18
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    Danielle Osmond
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Had some thought on it. I'm still considering bringing back the 10% mag buff during DWT/FBT. The "making it less busy" idea. Don't know why they haven't done this yet, but it make so much sense w/ demi-phoenix in the field during FBT, lvl 80 trait. Remove the summon bahamut hotbar altogether and consolidate summon bahamut itself during DWT, making it's trait at lvl 70. It would also require to remove the dreadwyrm aether as well as there is no need for it. The aether is literally useless at lvl 72 so what's the point in having that trait even existing. The aether stack needs to go back to 3 again, need more fester bombs, if not reduce the cooldown of energy drain/siphon to 20secs. Still deciding if the DoTs needs a buff, but i'll leave that alone for now.
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  9. #19
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    Arclest Aura
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    Belias
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    Arcanist Lv 80
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    Yoshida keep refering to fix SMN "busy-ness", so i'll take it by word which mean no bahamut or phoenix fix, just some EA adjusment and less button overall...
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    Nemekh Kinryuu
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    Odin
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Miminming View Post
    CMIIW
    Yoshida keep refering to fix SMN "busy-ness", so i'll take it by word which mean no bahamut or phoenix fix, just some EA adjusment and less button overall...
    He also referred to "pet controls". Combining both does lead to EAs given that they're 4 cpm as things stand.

    On Demi-Summons, that's not something I'm going to give up on.



    If I have to dig up old footage showing how things used to be in direct comparison with now, I will.
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