Maybe RDM need....

[Jkap_Goat]

Keep in mind when we talk about DPS balance we tall about RDPS which is more than just the amount of damage you put up on your own. RDM does not need to put up the same amount of personal DPS for it to contribute a comparable amount of rDPS, nor should it. What lots of people don't seem to understand is that rDPS is supposed to be damn near perfectly balanced because it represents the total amount of overall damage contribution by the class minus padding. If selfish jobs are blowing support jobs away so badly that their personal DPS alone makes their rDPS vastly vastly superior (keep in mind rDPS specifically excludes padding so in terms of actual performance the gap is even higher than rDPS suggests) then the gap is way way too high and balance is completely screwed. BLM's personal DPS alone should not put it 1500+ DPS above RDM in rDPS. Period.

TLDR ; All I hear is DPS which is this game is built around on. Period this game will never achieve true balance.

These Support jobs you call it...should be able to clear any content as Yoshi P said.

Red mage will never reach top DPS with it's utility and Its too bad you don't like it. Oh well.

FFXIV is way to centered about DPS, I hope the next FF MMO is notthing like ffxiv

[HyoMinPark]

TLDR ; All I hear is DPS which is this game is built around on. Period this game will never achieve true balance.

These Support jobs you call it...should be able to clear any content as Yoshi P said.

Red mage will never reach top DPS with it's utility and Its too bad you don't like it. Oh well.

FFXIV is way to centered about DPS, I hope the next FF MMO is notthing like ffxiv

No one is demanding RDM be the top DPS. They’re advocating for it to not be punished for utility that stops being utility in any farm or optimized setting (Verraise). They’re advocating for it to not be completely destroyed by BLM (which, it is being completely destroyed). Same for SMN. The imbalance between the casters is astounding, and worse than it was in Stormblood (where RDM also suffered for most of the expansion due to Verraise).

The “support” jobs are all viable—they can all clear the content. But there are some that are so weak that it’s becoming more and more likely that they are going to be excluded in favor of other jobs (e.g., the physical ranged are looking as if they will be excluded from speedkills and BLM take both ranged slots—Aether PFs for early Savage saw DNC being excluded in E3S and E4S parties due to its low personal damage, and the fact that its raid buffs do nothing to push it above any other DPS job). Jobs like SMN and RDM are completely flattened by the only other job in their role by no small margin (BLM); and jobs that have no utility (SAM) are being out-damaged by jobs that bring utility (MNK).

[Katie_Kitty]

TLDR ; All I hear is DPS which is this game is built around on. Period this game will never achieve true balance.

These Support jobs you call it...should be able to clear any content as Yoshi P said.

Red mage will never reach top DPS with it's utility and Its too bad you don't like it. Oh well.

FFXIV is way to centered about DPS, I hope the next FF MMO is notthing like ffxiv

It's almost as if you didn't even read my post. All you're doing here is just attacking the same strawman over and over again and completely ignoring any and all responses.

[ForteNightshade]

TLDR ; All I hear is DPS which is this game is built around on. Period this game will never achieve true balance.

These Support jobs you call it...should be able to clear any content as Yoshi P said.

Red mage will never reach top DPS with it's utility and Its too bad you don't like it. Oh well.

FFXIV is way to centered about DPS, I hope the next FF MMO is notthing like ffxiv

Red Mage can clear everything. Black Mage can outright die and still contribute more damage than Red Mage. But because Yoshida said Red Mage can clear, we'll just ignore how absurd that power difference is.