Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
Red mage is never going to do damage like Black mage. Never. And yes, if you want to do more damage as a caster, go play black mage becuase that's what you want to do right? Red mage is a red mage, a mixture of black and white, yes it is a DPS job but in it's core, it's identity; it's a hybrid. Look up what red mage is.

From what I'm reading from these forms lately, red mage is not even considered being played on high content and only practice parties so what am I missing?

People are asking to get rid of red mages utilities and don't know what the job identity is. If red mage does the same level of damage a Black mage does, people would be asking for a Balance and a Nerf to red mage. Whether you like it or not there will never be no perfect balance and Red mage is never going to be a massive damage dealer like black mage
Nice strawman. Once again nobody is saying RDM damage needs to be on par with BLM. What we're saying is that there is too much of an imbalance and saying "HURRR RED MAGE IDENTITY" is not going to cut it as a justification for keeping it bad.

I know the job's identity. I'm a life-long RDM fan. I preordered stormblood despite not planning on playing it right away just for the RDM minion. And I want to continue playing RDM as my main in high end content. That shouldn't mean I have to be a detriment to my party or, god forbid, be excluded from parties entirely. Nor does it mean I should have to deal with people telling me to "just play black mage bro".

At the end of the day this is an MMO. RDM is a DPS and that means it needs to be balanced to compete effectively with other DPS especially casters. That is the bottom line.