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    cactuarzzzz's Avatar
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    Maybe RDM need....

    Something like a battle stance with long recast time that prevent the usage of Vercure and Verrise but increase damage of attack skill by ?% [Effect Last till RDM cancel the stance].

    Embolden could have penalty removed and reduce duration to 10 -15 secs but increase radius to 25 y.
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    RDM does not need to lose Vercure or Verraise to justify buffing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalPesto View Post
    RDM does not need to lose Vercure or Verraise to justify buffing it.
    There's no real point in removing either of them anyway. Vercure is not as "strong" as it was before (or GCD cures to begin with) and RDM can raise people up to what 3 times now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    What on earth makes you think BLM is perform the way it should rather than better than it should?
    According to most BLMs here, it's in the best spot it has ever been in, I don't see how it can be better than it is now other than making it a broken job. Add tier V spells with 400 potency and don't require Enochian >_>? Also it's baby'd by Yoshida..
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    Last edited by Rasikko; 09-04-2019 at 01:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    According to most BLMs here, it's in the best spot it has ever been in, I don't see how it can be better than it is now other than making it a broken job. Add tier V spells with 400 potency and don't require Enochian >_>? Also it's baby'd by Yoshida..
    I think they were trying ask why I thought it was reasonably powerful and not overpowered. You're right though, BLM is definitely in the best spot it has ever been in, partially because of the 1% role buff, but mostly because it actually brings enough personal DPS to justify bringing it over another job that just buffs everyone. Also, any BLM player worth their salt will tell you that the job has been anything BUT babied, what you're seeing is basically the result of 3 whole expansions' worth of small but good QoL changes finally coming together, but it took a VERY long and painful time for it to get to this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capn_Goggles View Post
    I think they were trying ask why I thought it was reasonably powerful and not overpowered. You're right though, BLM is definitely in the best spot it has ever been in, partially because of the 1% role buff, but mostly because it actually brings enough personal DPS to justify bringing it over another job that just buffs everyone. Also, any BLM player worth their salt will tell you that the job has been anything BUT babied, what you're seeing is basically the result of 3 whole expansions' worth of small but good QoL changes finally coming together, but it took a VERY long and painful time for it to get to this point.
    I think the only reason the gap is so jarring is because everything else was so evenly tuned.

    Monk, Dragoon, and Black Mage seem so raucously out of line because everyone else is so finely on the line. I don't think that's an unfair statement, but if it was a gradient leading up like it was, it probably wouldn't be so apocalypse inspiring.

    To be honest though, the enhanced Enochian trait this time around probably didn't need to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    To be honest though, the enhanced Enochian trait this time around probably didn't need to happen.
    Well, this is how it would look without it:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    There's no real point in removing either of them anyway. Vercure is not as "strong" as it was before (or GCD cures to begin with) and RDM can raise people up to what 3 times now?
    RDM's MP problems were fixed so they're back to Stormblood Rez Dispenser status. Yay...

    Quote Originally Posted by Capn_Goggles View Post
    Also, any BLM player worth their salt will tell you that the job has been anything BUT babied, what you're seeing is basically the result of 3 whole expansions' worth of small but good QoL changes finally coming together, but it took a VERY long and painful time for it to get to this point.
    This, basically. I can't find the quote but I recall in an interview at some point they talked about how they worked hard to intentionally not baby BLM just because it was Yoshi-P's job precisely because they knew if they did then the community might not react well. It led to an inverse where BLM was almost ignored because it was Yoshi-P's job.
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    Last edited by SaberMaxwell; 09-04-2019 at 02:50 PM.
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    I get verraise but why does everyone target vercure as well? As a tool in high end vercure is only useful for prepping a dualcast while the boss is gone. Even as a heal, it's only a cure 1; it's not gonna make or break or clutch anything really.

    Inb4 "my vercure saved the tank from Titans stonecrusher" I'm sure it did, kid, good job.
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    Trying to help RDM here. Sorry if I upset you. But if RDM start doing good damage+have good damage utility+verrise then you can bet that they could become meta too which inviting disagreement from everyone else.

    My intention is to have RDM keep Verrise/heal and still have option to do good damage. Have Verrise/heal when learning mechanic, switch to more dps when aim to beat the enrage. But if anyone have a better idea it is very welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz View Post
    Trying to help RDM here. Sorry if I upset you. But if RDM start doing good damage+have good damage utility+verrise then you can bet that they could become meta too which inviting disagreement from everyone else.

    My intention is to have RDM keep Verrise/heal and still have option to do good damage. Have Verrise/heal when learning mechanic, switch to more dps when aim to beat the enrage. But if anyone have a better idea it is very welcome.
    Basically people aren't asking for it to be competitive, not have black mage damage. Right now there is no reason to bring one over anything else. Ver-cure is only for solo content so forget about that, ver- raise is so rare you'll ever need it over a healer, if you do use it your dps will be terrible, and their raid buff only buffs one type of damage and goes down in power.

    No one wants them for their dps, which isn't good enough and no one wants them for their utility either right now.
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