Is there an ilvl requirement for shb dungeons?

[Izyla]

This is something I've been wondering about as of late. I've started leveling my alt jobs by taking them through the shb dungeons and I've noticed more and more people that are frankly severely undergeared in my dungeon runs. I was running Dohn Mheg with a bard using an ilvl 136 bow which I think is early HW. It was doable but the run took a loooong time :P

Then yesterday I was put in the same dungeon with a drk tank who was wearing his ilvl 290 SB relic set, including weapon with mixed accessories (most being ilvl 380 but some also much lower, if memory serves). We wiped a few times because the healer was struggling to keep him up because of him only having 60k hp.

These are just 2 examples, but I've started to see it fairly often, these were just the 2 big outliers ^^

Is there an ilvl requirement for these dungeons?

[meTYE]

Nope there is not i am afraid, tho i wish it where.

[Vidu]

Non of the leveling dungeons have ilvl requirements, those are only in place for max-level dungeons - so the answer is basically yes and no. The three level 80 dungeons require an ilvl of at least 410.

Requests to put an ilvl on leveling dungeons has been made and this is their latest respond during the Live Letter LIII:


(00:34:47)
Q: Please set appropriate item level restrictions for leveling dungeons. Currently, it's possible for players to enter even if their item level is far too low to actually complete the dungeon…
A: We understand the issue and have been discussing it within the development team. Simply setting an item level requirement may create new problems, so we’re trying to come up with a different solution.

[TaiyoShikasu]

New problems like...there's probably some coding thing which is beyond my understanding, but otherwise I see no issue.

[Vidu]

New problems like...there's probably some coding thing which is beyond my understanding, but otherwise I see no issue.

I do - the same we see with the alliance-roulette right now: People adjusting their ilvl in a way that only allows them to end up in low level dungeons when using the roulette.

[HyoMinPark]

I do - the same we see with the alliance-roulette right now: People adjusting their ilvl in a way that only allows them to end up in low level dungeons when using the roulette.

The easiest way to prevent this is to make the item level requirements also reflect levels: of one is level 75, for example, they have to have an item level above i390. This would prevent them from attempting to cheese the Leveling roulette the same way people do Alliance. The exact values would need adjusting for each dungeon to adequately reflect where ones gear should be relative to what’s available in terms of crafted and dungeon gear, but adding this is better in the long run. Even if it’s more work.

I wish they’d put it on Alliance Roulette.

[Izyla]

Non of the leveling dungeons have ilvl requirements, those are only in place for max-level dungeons - so the answer is basically yes and no. The three level 80 dungeons require an ilvl of at least 410.

Requests to put an ilvl on leveling dungeons has been made and this is their latest respond during the Live Letter LIII:


(00:34:47)
Q: Please set appropriate item level restrictions for leveling dungeons. Currently, it's possible for players to enter even if their item level is far too low to actually complete the dungeon…
A: We understand the issue and have been discussing it within the development team. Simply setting an item level requirement may create new problems, so we’re trying to come up with a different solution.

I see! Thanks, I guess such a restriction could cause people to cheese the system for low ilvl dungeons like you mentioned, although I don't see why anyone would (I hate getting thousand maws of Toto-Rak or something in my roulette ).

[DPZ2]

I think that it should be a requirement to not have gear above a dungeon level in order to run through it ... So that level 80 Bard in i450 gear would have to put on ilevel 90 gear to do one of the level 50 MSQ roulettes. No more facerolling through Castrum!

Nah ... we'd hear the squawking from a thousand malms away ...

<end sarcasm >

[HyoMinPark]

I think that it should be a requirement to not have gear above a dungeon level in order to run through it ... So that level 80 Bard in i450 gear would have to put on ilevel 90 gear to do one of the level 50 MSQ roulettes. No more facerolling through Castrum!

Nah ... we'd hear the squawking from a thousand malms away ...

<end sarcasm >

That would terrible, because it promotes people holding on to old gear just to do content. Making item level syncs more strict would serve the same purpose without the armory chest bloat.

[BloodRubyXII]

I had a SCH in Dohn Mheg the other night with 29k hp in 290 AF gear. That was fun. He left during first boss because Landsblood absolutely smoked him, no surprise when he was literally 100 item lvls undergeared.