Is Blm gonna be the only accepted range option now? :(

[Akiudo]

Nobody is ignoring this, Melee is just so overtuned right now that taking any less than 2 is trolling your group or you truly don't care. Post like this are only trying to defend the idea that at the very least. all 5 roles should be represented in this games metagame in some way and double BLM or triple melee BLM is in direct contrast to this belief as this would exclude an entire role

but thats what it ends up if people use the role bonus to justify bringing a class, which people have done more than once in the last couple days, because if the role bonus is the only reason to bring a physical ranged or a caster (even if it is enough of a reason) than double physical ranged/casters (or even 3 ranged in total) are completly unviable, and while i don't think that in itself is a problem it becomes a problem if 2 melees are basically locked and 3 are at least viable

[Wayfinder3]

but thats what it ends up if people use the role bonus to justify bringing a class, which people have done more than once in the last couple days, because if the role bonus is the only reason to bring a physical ranged or a caster (even if it is enough of a reason) than double physical ranged/casters (or even 3 ranged in total) are completly unviable, and while i don't think that in itself is a problem it becomes a problem if 2 melees are basically locked and 3 are at least viable

the only reason why this isn't saying anything is because, Melee don't offer much more than ranged do as far as utility. the Role is just better than every other role with the exception of BLM. if ranged were swapped with melee, it would be BLM, 2 of DNC/BRD/MCH, and the last would be the strongest melee or a 3rd ranged. Melee are assured 2 slots because they're just better than the other alternatives right now by at least 8% to 10% rdps

[Akiudo]

the only reason why this isn't saying anything is because, Melee don't offer much more than ranged do as far as utility. the Role is just better than every other role with the exception of BLM. if ranged were swapped with melee, it would be BLM, 2 of DNC/BRD/MCH, and the last would be the strongest melee or a 3rd ranged. Melee are assured 2 slots because they're just better than the other alternatives right now by at least 8% to 10% rdps

thats basically my point, i was simply pointing out that this is a reason why using the role bonus is a bad justification, like i don't say the role bonus is a bad thing, its their to encourage some balance and obviously not all classes will be perfectly balanced ever, its just that at least some people argue that the role bonus is a good fix to imbalance in a "if they are only 6% worse than role bonus will fix it" way, which is not really true, thats the point where the role bonus is enough to "enforce" 1 phys ranged/1caster, but not nearly the point where this blatant imbalance disappers.

If all casters/ranged where 5% below the lowest melee the role bonus would work in the "take one of these" sense, it would however not make things like double physical ranged any more viable which while i don't think is necessarely "bad" i really don't see a reason why 2/1/1 melee/phys/ranged should be encouraged more than 1/2/1 or maybe even 2/2 for example (that would require combining the caster/ranged phys bonus but i personally wouldn't mind that, its basically the same slot at this point anyways)