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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    None of these questions are relevant to the point Saito brought up. But I’m sure you know that.
    On reflection - fine.

    I suppose they aren't to the issue of numbers, but they are to me. I want to know his answers. They help me understand his viewpoint better, which given the recent little exchange, I would like, because I don't know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendalwind View Post
    And its increasingly idiotic/hypocritical of you kaboaa to even bring up such questions because ive literally heard you say before difficulty of class play is irrelevant to balancing.

    Please stop being arbitrarily obstinate and bringing up opinion and unmeasurable discrepencies such as:" are certain jobs more prone to mistakes?"

    Answer your own damn irrelevant and unmeasurable questions..
    My own opinions on the matter are already in the forum somewhere. Probably in this thread as well.

    He brought up it up. I wanted more elaboration. I shouldn't need more than that to ask questions. Asking a question doesn't mean I believe whatever answer you're thinking I'm fishing for.

    Chill.

    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998.
    Hah.

    That's fair. Thank you for humoring me. For the record, I don't really disagree with your answers, though they kind of lack the detail I wanted from them.

    I'm a numbers person and I'm a details person. I like having both. I dislike having both in the "1000 more" variety.

    It's weird because back in Stormblood, the argument is "You shouldn't be making mistakes, so if there are mistakes they don't matter in the grand scheme of things." when it pertained to jobs and their balance.

    So when mistakes got brought up, I wanted more information. Why, did it suddenly matter if mistakes were compensated for in the kill? And if it does matter, to what extent should it matter?

    And if the amount it matters should be the same, then this in turn means that design for the jobs has to drastically change not just on a numerical basis, because we've already been in a state of the game where the stuff that allowed "For mistakes" wasn't supposed to factor into the overall job balance.

    Sorry for the delay. I'm trying to get another clear I ultimately don't deserve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Sorry for the delay. I'm trying to get another clear I ultimately don't deserve.
    gdi

    No one is arguing that you don't deserve the clear, that's not this is about. The whole point of the exercise was just to bring up that in the current state of the balance, taking specific classes more than ever before has become a factor into tipping an enrage wipe into a clear and vice-versa. That's something people want corrected above all.
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    "Consider this old adage: When a Bard sings alone in a desert, and no one is around to hear him... Is he truly singing?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    gdi

    No one is arguing that you don't deserve the clear, that's not this is about. The whole point of the exercise was just to bring up that in the current state of the balance, taking specific classes more than ever before has become a factor into tipping an enrage wipe into a clear and vice-versa. That's something people want corrected above all.
    It's just a jab, man.

    I don't mean to sound heated, because I rather enjoy the discussion.

    Speaking personally, I enjoy riding the line whenever I can, and if I can drag people over it with me, all the better. Even if its their corpse.
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