Thread: 5.08 Patch - DPS still not balanced.

Originally Posted by Hacchan

While RDM just need a bump in potency since it's on the bottom of the ranged dps when it used to be just ahead of BRD during SB.

not going to argue on the rest right now, but this here is simply not true, mind you i don't blame you on this, it just shows exactly where one of the issues in the discussion right now lies so with that being said...

relative dps to other jobs completly aside (if redmage where 50 dps above bard and 3000 behind blackmage it wouldn't suddenly be fine just because it is once again "ahead" of bard.

However and even more important and that what a lot of people seem to miss,(while this is true for all classes lets take your redmage bard example), redmage never was "ahead" of bard, not even slightly. Redmage in personal dps may have been just a tiny bit about bard, but that was the dps the redmage themselves had on the parser, not its raid contribution, which in the case of bard got nerfed into the ground with Shadowbringers. The metric fflogs uses since shadowbringers is different compared to stormblood. Before it was simply the dps you did, even if you were buffed with every single AST card and all, nowadays its your actual raid contribution, i.e. every bit you buff other classes for gets added to your raid dps, every bit of damage you only did because you got buffed gets subtracted, and in that regard bard went from "2% crit for the whole group passive+battle voice+foes requiem, all of which buffed group dps to 'you still got battle voice, be grateful'"