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  1. #61
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    Dogempire's Avatar
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    You shouldn't worry too much about it, people won't really judge you based on your logs unless you stomp around saying "I'm the best ___ in the world" or something along the lines of that, or you're looking for a static, which you can just ask for a trial run for those if your logs are bad.
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    Watching forum drama be like

  2. #62
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    Katie_Kitty's Avatar
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    Princess Whiskers
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    Exodus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    I think the system would be better if they remove the names of players who didn't actively signed up on the page. Then you could still analyses your data, but you and others could only read the names of the fflog-members and everyone else would just be render anonymous.

    Of course, you can log in and block it but it actually should be the other way around. If you are - for example - a Dragoon and didn't signed up, then in all the parses you participated in should just be a "Random Dragoon" or something like that and nobody should find anything by looking up your name. Personally while I'm actually very found of FFlogs and the data it provides for those who are wanting to improve, I just find it a bit irritating that everyone can look up the data of someone who might not even know that parses of them or the page itself even exists. I was quit surprised myself too when I first heard about that page and saw the logs.
    I don't see any reason why parses should be anonymous by default. None at all. People have the right to know who they're letting into their parties. Nobody should be forced to carry a grey party member.
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  3. #63
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    NekoNova's Avatar
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    I don't see any reason why parses should be anonymous by default. None at all. People have the right to know who they're letting into their parties. Nobody should be forced to carry a grey party member.
    Nobody should be forced to cater to insane standards either, yet here we are
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    Olivar Starblaze
    Onion Knight - Lalafell Carbuncle Retainer
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    Ragnarok Server

  4. #64
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by NekoNova View Post
    Nobody should be forced to cater to insane standards either, yet here we are
    I don't really think it's too much to ask that your party members be competent, particularly in Savage where carrying bad players can be excruciating. Especially since if people find themselves not being able to meet said 'insane standards' they can just make their own groups and usually get by rather swimmingly that way. I'm new to Savage with this tier now that my health and life have finally gotten under control and my DPS parse is /terrible/ as SCH. My healing makes up for it from what I can tell but I absolutely would not blame any group for wanting to try and nab someone who could put out better numbers. Especially as healing can become very scripted from what I've noticed once you get used to a specific fight. I'm the one having trouble adjusting to Savage. No one owes me a spot in a group and I'm rather grateful that my static is willing to put up with me as I adjust to the higher skill level. It's really not asking to much that I improve.
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  5. #65
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    Misutoraru's Avatar
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Cerberus
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    I don't see any reason why parses should be anonymous by default. None at all. People have the right to know who they're letting into their parties. Nobody should be forced to carry a grey party member.
    just don’t let the one who have no parse record to join your party.
    some people just upload everything, normal raid, alliance raid...etc
    those players who have no intention joining savage should not have to "do something" for their number not to be shown, especially we have a mentally of "hiding your log make you look fishy" among the community
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    Last edited by Misutoraru; 09-01-2019 at 07:23 PM.

  6. #66
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    NekoNova's Avatar
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    I don't really think it's too much to ask that your party members be competent, particularly in Savage where carrying bad players can be excruciating. Especially since if people find themselves not being able to meet said 'insane standards' they can just make their own groups and usually get by rather swimmingly that way. I'm new to Savage with this tier now that my health and life have finally gotten under control and my DPS parse is /terrible/ as SCH. My healing makes up for it from what I can tell but I absolutely would not blame any group for wanting to try and nab someone who could put out better numbers. Especially as healing can become very scripted from what I've noticed once you get used to a specific fight. I'm the one having trouble adjusting to Savage. No one owes me a spot in a group and I'm rather grateful that my static is willing to put up with me as I adjust to the higher skill level. It's really not asking to much that I improve.

    It's not too much to ask for party members to be competent, especially in savage raids. Please don't misunderstand my comment as such.
    A minimum performance is required from everyone involved to even have a chance at beating the encounter.
    I understand that it's frustrating to perform well and only see the run fail because of someone.


    What I do have a problem with is that people utilize the same tools and requirements for pretty much everything else.
    And that's the main reason why these tools should not be standard/public to begin with.
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    Olivar Starblaze
    Onion Knight - Lalafell Carbuncle Retainer
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    Ragnarok Server

  7. #67
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    Driavna's Avatar
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Sagittarius
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NekoNova View Post
    What I do have a problem with is that people utilize the same tools and requirements for pretty much everything else.
    And that's the main reason why these tools should not be standard/public to begin with.
    From my own experience, this is just not true. In a general basis, no one cares about anyone's numbers for most of the content. With savage being the exception and not even all turns. In fact, the meme about farm parties being traps parties happens because no one really bothers to check FFLogs.
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  8. #68
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    LalaRu's Avatar
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    The best of that people so much entitled on logs, is when they kicked me as healer in farm party because "my dps suck", and then hear from my friend dps kept there, that they constantly failed the duty thereafter because low healing and disbanded. But the new healer was surely better than me on dps. L M A O.
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  9. #69
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    Ea Sin
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    From my own experience, this is just not true. In a general basis, no one cares about anyone's numbers for most of the content. With savage being the exception and not even all turns. In fact, the meme about farm parties being traps parties happens because no one really bothers to check FFLogs.
    This. Even savage pugs don’t check and will only complain to someone / reform because of dps if it’s an issue in the group (can’t clear enrage with a «*fair*» amount of deaths because someone isn’t pulling their weight)

    It’s only really statics that check logs and if you decide not to show yours then it’s highly likely it’s because they’re bad so it’s fair for them to opt out of even trying you. If you don’t have any then it’ll depend on the skill tier of your static. Some are willing to give newcomers a change and trial them.
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  10. #70
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    Lunavi's Avatar
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    Luna Nattvind
    World
    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Yes, it is very much against the umbrella ruled that exists to prevent third party tools and harassment. However, don't talk about it outside of private chats with people you trust and you shall be fine.
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    Learn, explore, and think for yourself. Make your choices, take actions, and let yourself be free.

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