Question about FFLogs

[Nemmar]

Who cares if your performance is up there?

Are you afraid people are gonna go after you in case you are bad? Who cares? Cmon people, you need to stop caring about useless things.

If someone harasses you, you report them. This is simple. Don't need to go find excuses like external site's for people who are just nasty. Report them. The problem is the person. End of story.

[HakaseNyan]

Who cares if your performance is up there?

Are you afraid people are gonna go after you in case you are bad? Who cares? Cmon people, you need to stop caring about useless things.

If someone harasses you, you report them. This is simple. Don't need to go find excuses like external site's for people who are just nasty. Report them. The problem is the person. End of story.

Except in the situation where you're excluded from a group because your performance is up there and/or you have your logs hidden. This is technically harassment, is it not? However, you cannot prove this is the reason they are excluding you. Ergo, you cannot report them for harassing you.

[Alaray]

Except in the situation where you're excluded from a group because your performance is up there and/or you have your logs hidden. This is technically harassment, is it not? However, you cannot prove this is the reason they are excluding you. Ergo, you cannot report them for harassing you.

No that's not harassment, that's a player not meeting the bar set for that party. That's like saying: someone who is excluded from a party because they only want to play ARC at level 80 with level 1 gear equipped is being harassed.

Make/find a group better suited for the play level you're at.

Actual, real harassment can end up being serious. Turning it into a bad joke does no one any favors.

[HakaseNyan]

No that's not harassment, that's a player not meeting the bar set for that party. That's like saying: someone who is excluded from a party because they only want to play ARC at level 80 with level 1 gear equipped is being harassed.

Make/find a group better suited for the play level you're at.

Actual, real harassment can end up being serious. Turning it into a bad joke does no one any favors.

Nevermind the example of bad parse history; I don't want to get into a series of hypotheticals. However, what about using that string in your profile to hide logs? If the party leader tells you straight out, "you can't play with us because you hide your parses" and proceeds to kick you - is that not harassment? What do you call that?

Here's a hint: If the party leader actually did say anything relating to FFLogs or parsing being the reason you can't play with them, then you could report him or her and they would get a meeting with a GM.

Also, your example is a terrible misrepresentation. A Lv80 ARC with Lv1 gear equipped wouldn't be able to meet actual party-finder criteria to join the party; role slots can be set to require Jobs only and no Classes with the addition of a minimum iLevel. I don't see a "must have FFLogs visible" option though.

[Alaray]

Nevermind the example of bad parse history; I don't want to get into a series of hypotheticals. However, what about using that string in your profile to hide logs? If the party leader tells you straight out, "you can't play with us because you hide your parses" and proceeds to kick you - is that not harassment? What do you call that?

Here's a hint: If the party leader actually did say anything relating to FFLogs or parsing being the reason you can't play with them, then you could report him or her and they would get a meeting with a GM.

Also, your example is a terrible misrepresentation. A Lv80 ARC with Lv1 gear equipped wouldn't be able to meet actual party-finder criteria to join the party; role slots can be set to require Jobs only and no Classes with the addition of a minimum iLevel. I don't see a "must have FFLogs visible" option though.

You're not playing at their expected level, or they can't gauge whether you're someone who can play at their desired level. Again, that's not harassment. That's: We don't want to potentially carry you. It's not a group that lines up with you. Find a different group.

There's plenty of other groups to join, or you can make your own. You're not being actively excluded from participating in the content as a whole, and have other options, and they aren't sending you tells telling you in detail why they think you suck. Or mocking you in tells and so on.

If someone entered my party and I didn't like them for some reason, I'm free to kick them. Whether they came in and perform so poorly on a fight they're barely a combatant, or started to throw around transphobic stuff, or whatever. There's not spot in the PF options to say "If you are replaceable with a NPC don't join" or "Don't fling around dumb comments" alongside the general description of what the group intends to do -- at least in cases of Savage since that's where people slap in the strat they're using. But I still hold the ability to kick those players from my party, be it for their own mouths, or for, as your posted examples falls under: Gameplay differences.

Sure, they can't tell you precisely why as a different rule covers mentioning ACT. But if you can infer why, why on earth do you want to play with them? And instead of hyperfixating on this 1 group who doesn't want you, why not find a different group from the multitudes that likely exist?

I am fairly convinced you don't know what harassment is. (ie: continual, aggressive, pressure aimed specifically at you -- like, if they started to send you a ton of /tells about why they hate you or the like, or if the sent /tells mocking you repeatedly, etc... -- but even a single case of that is reportable).

[Nixxe]

Except in the situation where you're excluded from a group because your performance is up there and/or you have your logs hidden. This is technically harassment, is it not? However, you cannot prove this is the reason they are excluding you. Ergo, you cannot report them for harassing you.

Pretty nuts that you'd think that's harassment. Why do you feel entitled to join other people's groups if you cannot meet their standards?