Question about FFLogs

[Shougun]

Well, here's the thing about battle log privacy: it's not private. It's factually not private. It may feel like it should be to some and others may treat it like it is but it's actually not private.

I look at it this way- you're in a public space doing whatever, and someone who logs and then uploads you name tagged would then be the person in that public space who has not only taken a picture with you in it but then also purposefully face recognized you and put you in a database that other people can look up. So now you're in a detailed public database of where and what you've done that you might not have even known about and one you clearly didn't consent to.

Yes you're in a public space (in the example above, technically here we are in "SE's space, like inside a corporation's building/theater"), and it will indeed look bad if you start screaming at that random person recording you on camera "DONT FILM ME Q_Q /rage /tableflip /roll on ground /knock over trash can". Yet at the same time I can imagine people, at least a number of people, could see that and go to the camera man that's following you in the public space and be like "dude... knock it off, you not only don't need to record this random person, not only upload their image, but you don't need to also tag them into a database- all clearly without their consent.. it's a bit creepy".

Of course it's the age of data, and the programs make this exceptionally easy, so I'm not trying to say everyone uploading their parses with collateral damage of other names is creepy- to them it's more like they've been recording themselves at a concert with a static group of strangers (purpose was not to record the strangers). Though technically some people may be recording not for their self-purpsoses, and in that example of the video you don't normally go database tag the strangers lol. It's Just that the feeling I have is "I understand I was in a public space but I did not consent to you recording me and then uploading me to a search-able database, I would like you not to do that". To me when I get into a group picture (intentionally) I've consented to the uploading of that image with my name but I guess another example you could make is you're in a group setting and someone has been following you around and taking pictures of you, a different scenario ("Shougun drinking from a water fountain, Shougun going to the bathroom, Shougun ordering fatty food" - awkward). Again I don't want to argue its illegal, but it's just creepy to me and it does feel like a non-illegal invasion of my privacy (or at least a privacy I'd like to have, so therefore "imo" it's an invasion- you don't need a public database on my doings and whereabouts lol).

In a bit of a hyperbole but "close enough, to be a vague analogy" to me it's like tracking people and slapping a social score on them without them opting in (China's social system, Community's meow meow beans, Black Mirror's Nosedive), obviously those log sites have a far less dystopian effect or even a tenth of an important effect lol yet it just makes me think "no thanks, knock it off".

In other news I went to check the website, having made account just to turn it private (which apparently they undid or I did and forgot, not a big deal lol), and I wanted to see if there were any logs of them. Not a single log :3. So if people were petrified of the site I'd be less so. Though I personally still find the existence of a non-consenting personally identifying (ish, not my real name lol) database as undesirable. Of course I can see the objective benefit it gives personal and groups helpful and powerful tools to improve and learn. Although part of the reason I'm probably not in a log at the moment is that I don't savage/ultimate either, just not my cup of tea anymore (used to do that stuff in WoW/FFXI and even Twintania). I just feel like keeping a static schedule or dealing with the plethora of silly drama PF issues is too much of a hassle (to me) and takes away the fun- DF for life for me lol. Also since I don't savage the social ramifications for me have been pretty much zero (if someone silently made a judgment I wouldn't have known), no one has needed to see my logs (that don't even exist apparently lol, I know the system deletes them with age so that's probably what happened).

Not that I'm even ashamed of the damage I think I put out because I do try to be in the upper bracket of "helpfulness to the team", or top (preferable ), of each group (not perfect, or care to use potions lol, but I'm certainly not an ice mage). So at the end, as I said, I just find it invasive and undesirable to have non-consenting identified logs of things I may or may not need to care about later. Like having a twitter (obviously consenting) history and then someone going 8 years back to find something to get you with.. that stuff just makes me "nope" (I've also purged most of my facebook and personal twitter ).