Question about FFLogs

[SenorPatty]

Well, here's the thing about battle log privacy: it's not private. It's factually not private. It may feel like it should be to some and others may treat it like it is but it's actually not private.

The only thing private about player character is all the information required to access that character: your login information, your account information, etc. That's the thing SE has to go out of their way to protect. But once you're inside the game, your face and your name are just as public as the battle log that continuously provides information regarding your actions in combat in real time to anyone partied with you. As such, the battle log information can be utilized in any shape or form because it's combat data that is visually and more importantly publicly accessed. If today, I go into a party with say, all the people's on this page right now and I simply copy paste the battle log for me to see, for my friends to see, for my blog or basically any visual medium, there's nothing SE can do about that. It's just public game combat information being made...public.

The game is not some private world where it's safeguarded from the real world. The same way someone on youtube can view the game, including the players in the game is the same way people can look up anything on that video, battle log information included tied to those people. Sure, the messy, cluttered and rapid display may very well obfuscate who does what, but it's there. If SE were to, for some reason or other, copyright strikedown the video, it's not because people's ingame information is up. It's because permission to display the game in itself was not granted or revoked, not because of what was in it. Now, fortunately the most part, (and I'm going on a bit of a tangent here) the ff14 video uploading community seems to try for the most part to blur names out, either out of consideration or just in case to not step on anyone's toes. SE has not taken down videos providing gameplay cause no game company that's providing an mmo is stupid enough to takedown what they basically perceive as promotional material. Either way, it's all public. All of it.

So what's to take from all this? You got options. Very unpopular options. You have the option of trying to join the burning crusade against FFLOGS to see if SE can takedown the website. Good luck with that, FFLOGS has basically been surviving that for years as if it were some prestigious sieged castle wall with not shortage of supplies. Another option is to play the "if you can't beat them, join them" game, except you quickly leave the game by opting out of FFlogs after your register with them. You could also send a very stern but polite letter to the ones who maintain the site. As Iron Bull from DA:I would say "It could work...but it won't." And then there's also the mainstream option of...not giving the site any thought or care. It is what it is, it'll be there for better or for worse. Even if it disappeared mysteriously with some allagan magic, some other person would just make FFLOG: A Website Reborn because at the end of the day, so long as the battle log is alive and kicking and public in the game, so will all the machinations to make sure it's brought up in a clear and concise manner for all to see.

[Saintly]

I don't see anything wrong with it really, if anything i hope that they drop their "anti-parsing rule" completely.

To stay on topic tho.
As i said there's nothing wrong with it, it is used almost exclusively by those who do endgame Ex/Savage.

About people who hide their logs i can only think 2 reasons for someone to do that.
1. They have no interest in/don't join such content and want to keep their numbers private. (Which i personally find completely ok.)
2. They want to do such content and expect to get carried since they cant pull their own weight.

As long as someone ain't doing savage or plan to join a HC static the chances that someone, will bother to check his numbers on a third part are minimal.

[Alucard135]

To OP. Remove anything in your post about you using ACT. Some are "report happy" and won't miss a chance to report people for liking ACT and using it.

As for privacy, as some stated, it's not a violation of your own privacy, since you have no claim of the data generated in the game. Only SE does.

[xxvaynxx]

To OP. Remove anything in your post about you using ACT. Some are "report happy" and won't miss a chance to report people for liking ACT and using it.

As for privacy, as some stated, it's not a violation of your own privacy, since you have no claim of the data generated in the game. Only SE does.

You can say act, just can't give a link to it.
To the OP:
FFlogs is fine, just as people said. Don't talk about to people you don't know or are not ok with it. Don't harrass people with it.
People not knowing they were uploaded doesn't really mean anything, if said person REALLY doesn't like it. They must know about FFLOGS and in that case, they can make an account and hide their parses.

[RoyalBeef]

You can say act, just can't give a link to it.
To the OP:
FFlogs is fine, just as people said. Don't talk about to people you don't know or are not ok with it. Don't harrass people with it.
People not knowing they were uploaded doesn't really mean anything, if said person REALLY doesn't like it. They must know about FFLOGS and in that case, they can make an account and hide their parses.

I generally wouldn't talk about it at all ingame. If anything I'd say "My guess would be your DPS was pretty good, probably a 80/100 or so" ^^ For everything else, there's out of game stuff like discord.

[KageTokage]

From personal experience, blocking your parses on FFlogs tends to cause more harm then good as far as how willing people will be to invite you to parties.

It is pretty annoying to be getting judged by people when you aren't actively uploading your own parses to ensure the average DPS people are seeing is actually accurate, though...

[RoyalBeef]

From personal experience, blocking your parses on FFlogs tends to cause more harm then good as far as how willing people will be to invite you to parties.

It is pretty annoying to be getting judged by people when you aren't actively uploading your own parses to ensure the average DPS people are seeing is actually accurate, though...

My guess is people only upload their best runs, why would they uplod bad ones? So parses other's upload might be a more realistic representation than what a person uploads themself ^^

[Enla]

My guess is people only upload their best runs, why would they uplod bad ones? So parses other's upload might be a more realistic representation than what a person uploads themself ^^

Eh, I had a friend who ended up with a bad parse on FFlogs because one of their brainlet static teammates ended up loading the parse from their first clear of E1S. A clear where my friend ended up dead for awhile as the tank because the healer wasn't healing them and said brainlet DPS was pulling sub-optimally as well. It's rare at that level but it does happen sadly. Thankfully a few more proper runs fixed the issue but said friend was /not/ pleased when they found out.

[RoyalBeef]

Eh, I had a friend who ended up with a bad parse on FFlogs because one of their brainlet static teammates ended up loading the parse from their first clear of E1S. A clear where my friend ended up dead for awhile as the tank because the healer wasn't healing them and said brainlet DPS was pulling sub-optimally as well. It's rare at that level but it does happen sadly. Thankfully a few more proper runs fixed the issue but said friend was /not/ pleased when they found out.

Everyone has bad runs occasionally. Profiles without bad runs are as suspicious as businesses with only 5 star ratings... everyone knows stuff like that just doesn't happen ^^ Also everyone who runs statics etc know how to read FFLOGs. You can see someone died and you can see how they did up to that point. You can see if there is improvement from 1st logged kill (which is usually always a "barely made it" kill) to 20th logged kill etc.

Occasional bad logs literally mean nothing.

[Nora_of_Mira]

The question is... I just found ACT & FFlogs last week, I'm a little confused about the FFlogs...
Isn't that webside kind of illegal or something like violating in-game privicy policy?

its not private data, so its not illegal. however, it is against the TOS of FFxiv. It's also been around for years and highly watched streamers use them on stream with no punishment, so make your own judgement.