Have we given up on SCH?

[CrimsonGunner]

Honestly im just tired of telling the devs how bad their changes to healer are. What's the use of coming to the forums to write down all the problems you have with the changes only to get a "We don't plan on changing anything, bit appreciated your feeback".

Also, while we are unhappy with healer changes DPS are getting constant reworks, and buffs to many classes, and even tanks are noted to be next in line.

Honestly if healers dont get something intresting and fun next expansion (like how they were in Stormblood) I think I'm done. They just dont listen to healer, or dont care

did they say they aren't going to change anything at some point?
if you could,can you please link the interview that says that?

[Billythepancake]

did they say they aren't going to change anything at some point?
if you could,can you please link the interview that says that?

I wish they did, if I'm honest. The only thing I can think of is in the last live letter,or maybe the one before that(?), Where they said they have no intention of going back to the previous AST card system despite all the overwhelming negative feedback. But man, I'd at least take a "no" at this point so I can have so damn closure, but I suppose if I had that then I'd have no reason to stay subbed, so better to keep dragging us along.

[kobe-sabi]

did they say they aren't going to change anything at some point?
if you could,can you please link the interview that says that?

The problem is, 4.0 WHM community was the only ones complaining about thier job gauge, the lily system was not inresting and it didnt offer nothing new to a WHM kit. the thread for WHM changes had had over 550,000 views and thousands of comments. mean while the SCH and AST was happy where they were at, hence you would think SE would LEAVE AST AND SCH ALONE, but they didnt they took away what made the jobs fun, and gave the WHM a boost in damage, a few OGCD's heals and spells with no mp cost adding to WHM endless pool of MP. WHM is sitting good right now and i dont want it to get any nerfs cause im tired of this leaving one job behind in certain classes.

SCH needs their Pets to matter, they want their damage kit back, if SE was scared to buff Selene because Selene affected the party, then why not let Selene buff the master, in damage, cast speed, extra mitigation, or whatever, this streamlining jobs it getting on my nerves.

[Deceptus]

The problem is, 4.0 WHM community was the only ones complaining about thier job gauge, the lily system was not inresting and it didnt offer nothing new to a WHM kit. the thread for WHM changes had had over 550,000 views and thousands of comments. mean while the SCH and AST was happy where they were at, hence you would think SE would LEAVE AST AND SCH ALONE, but they didnt they took away what made the jobs fun, and gave the WHM a boost in damage, a few OGCD's heals and spells with no mp cost adding to WHM endless pool of MP. WHM is sitting good right now and i dont want it to get any nerfs cause im tired of this leaving one job behind in certain classes.

SCH needs their Pets to matter, they want their damage kit back, if SE was scared to buff Selene because Selene affected the party, then why not let Selene buff the master, in damage, cast speed, extra mitigation, or whatever, this streamlining jobs it getting on my nerves.

Most healers who were worth a damn saw the 4.0 WHM changes and knew they'd be bad. WHM's had support from a lot of other healers because we all knew our job could be next (and it was in ShB). The fact they took so much away from WHM and gave it to others in the form of role actions was bad.

The fact they took stoneskin away and gave it back later in the form of Divine benison was bad.

They took away Divine Seal, gave it back via role action (Largesse), took it away again and gave it back baked into Temperance was bad. SE has a really bad track record of doing this crap, and not only on healers.

[kobe-sabi]

Most healers who were worth a damn saw the 4.0 WHM changes and knew they'd be bad. WHM's had support from a lot of other healers. The fact they took so much away from WHM and gave it to others in the form of role actions was bad.

The fact they took stoneskin away and gave it back later in the form of Divine benison was bad.

They took away Divine Seal, gave it back via role action (Largesse), took it away again and gave it back baked into Temperance. SE has a really bad track record of doing this crap.

all the Healers could of kept all their original spells, and allow them to upgrade into new spells using traits. it just proves they are running out of ideas or saving them till we're all capped at LV99. Six years and the only new role action they came up with was RESCUE. for the rest, i can understand the ESUNA, SWIFTCAST, and LUCID DREAMING thing they want to save time/resources for when they add a new healer. Do i hate this? YES I DO. Because i been SCH/WHM/ since 2.0 2013 and an AST since 3.0 2015 and Nostalgia is one hell of a drug. for the rest, REPOSE is garbage, and i have a feeling they know how we feel about REPOSE! i would rather have back CLERIC STANCE atleast i will feel like i can use all my Role Actions. Also can we please buff SURECAST, 6s duration but 120s recast, can we raise this to 12s duriation.

[Sloprano]

all the Healers could of kept all their original spells, and allow them to upgrade into new spells using traits. it just proves they are running out of ideas or saving them till we're all capped at LV99. Six years and the only new role action they came up with was RESCUE. for the rest, i can understand the ESUNA, SWIFTCAST, and LUCID DREAMING thing they want to save time/resources for when they add a new healer. Do i hate this? YES I DO. Because i been SCH/WHM/ since 2.0 2013 and an AST since 3.0 2015 and Nostalgia is one hell of a drug. for the rest, REPOSE is garbage, and i have a feeling they know how we feel about REPOSE! i would rather have back CLERIC STANCE atleast i will feel like i can use all my Role Actions. Also can we please buff SURECAST, 6s duration but 120s recast, can we raise this to 12s duriation.

More I think about it 5.0 doesn't seem like 'Healers Big Balance' patch and more like 'Balance's Big Balance' patch. It sure seems that way going by how little they've disclosed about anything else for SCH and healers in general.

[kobe-sabi]

More I think about it 5.0 doesn't seem like 'Healers Big Balance' patch and more like 'Balance's Big Balance' patch. It sure seems that way going by how little they've disclosed about anything else for SCH and healers in general.

All i know is come this next live letter, lets us now about job changes coming, its cool they want to interview they new 24 man Nier team. but people who play want answers on what they plan on doing with jobs under performing and jobs that are mad boring to play. HOPEFULLY when the smoke is cleared, jobs are fixed and people give back positive feedback on what they changed, they don't back track on it when 6.0 drops. wishful thinking since SE loves back tracking on things.