Have we given up on SCH?

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I get fatigue is part of it, you guys had bigger issues for longer, which have yet to be addressed. And I think on top of job-specific issues, there is an overall problem with healing, which mostly ties to it not being so engaging any more. This I don't think become fully apparent until we lost more of what we do in our downtime. SCH arguably has a great toolkit that works well for the job's theme and lore. But for how well it heals against 95% of the content, you don't get to utilise it. From what I hear from my WHM co-healer, it's the same situation with WHM, though with some extra things that need fixing with such as lilies.

I'd rather see all 3 addressed at the same time and if in some parallel universe they decided to address WHM first, then actually great, because I know they've had the bigger problems longest. And I'd figure our love would follow. Though I doubt they'd communicate it, so we'd probably still have complaints until they do. But so far, we've not really had any communication, so we kinda in limbo as to whether SE even recognises any of the core problems as problems. Last expansion they recognised WHM had issues and as I understood it they were supposed to be addressing it this time around from what I heard at the time (gonna admit through the grapevine, so I'd be screwed if asked for a source), but it seemed their idea was to bring SCH and AST down with it, rather than bring WHM up.

With that all said, I think it is fairly normal for people to see a problem with the job they play and then make complaints about the job they play and provide their comments and thoughts on the job they play. I don't think that's necessarily out of thinking they deserve attention more than the next job or believing it's fine for other jobs to get worse. As ultimately, I think everybody wants to like the job they play. I don't think that is a snub by any means to other jobs. And at the same time, I've seen effort too to include WHM in discussions that aren't on job-specific issues. And in fairness, I realise it's not everyone, because I've also seen some say "WHM is fine" because if you look at the numbers then one would deduce that WHM is fine. But if the complaint was over numbers and balance then it'd be accurate.

And if SCH and AST are kicking up a fuss, I guess my earlier point is that I'd like to see WHM representation as they still have problems, so the assumption isn't "WHM must be fine if they're not complaining". We see inclusiveness more in the some of the generalised threads. But there's a lack of WHM threads and in the first few pages of browsing, the only one I see is of a white mage being very toxic, and despite that, it did open discourse about how WHM is not doing fine.

I figure the best people to represent WHM's would be WHM's. But I might be tempted to create a WHM thread to collect some of the problems. I know feedback is a shot in the dark. But we know at least they read the forums.