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  1. #1
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Sch doesn't have a attack that's hits more than one monster at a time. Sch doesn't have miasma II. Only aoe it has at level 80 is Biolysis that has a potency of 60. Whm has dia that has a potency of 120. It might had miasma before 5.0. Sch is weakest out of the 3 healers. Only one with miasma is the summoner not the scholar. Scholar doesn't have bane that spreads it out to other enemies. Like the summoner has. Only attack spells scholar has is broil, energy drain, and biolysis at level 80.
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    Last edited by hynaku; 09-11-2019 at 06:01 PM.

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    YusiKha's Avatar
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    Lost Skywatcher
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Sch doesn't have a attack that's hits more than one monster at a time. Sch doesn't have miasma II. Only aoe it has at level 80 is Biolysis that has a potency of 60. Whm has dia that has a potency of 120. It might had miasma before 5.0. Sch is weakest out of the 3 healers. Only one with miasma is the summoner not the scholar. Scholar doesn't have bane that spreads it out to other enemies. Like the summoner has. Only attack spells scholar has is broil, energy drain, and biolysis at level 80.
    You have Art of War, my dude. Please put it on your hotbar.
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    Last edited by YusiKha; 09-11-2019 at 06:17 PM.

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    Ysera Dei-ijla
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    Goblin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    Still here, waiting for revisions to our job. Still wish Seraph had more power, still want a full return of our dps toolkit, and I still wish they would give us back Selene's unique abilities!
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    Baidar Torgud
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Well the only thing mentioned in the live letter about healers was how the devs were going to adjust Noct sect for Astro........

    Honestly I'm starting to wonder why even post here anymore. They dont even seem to notice all the problems everyone is having with their new class changes.

    5.1 is pretty much a dps overbuff but even then the ranged classes are going to be hurting.

    I just dont know anymore.
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    Lost Skywatcher
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Almostward View Post
    Honestly I'm starting to wonder why even post here anymore. They dont even seem to notice all the problems everyone is having with their new class changes.
    Pretty sure they don’t have any healer mains on the dev team, or at least anyone who heals at an ex/savage level.
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    tesni_g's Avatar
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    Tesni Ginlimian
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by YusiKha View Post
    Pretty sure they don’t have any healer mains on the dev team, or at least anyone who heals at an ex/savage level.
    A single healer main on staff would solve 90% of our complaints in one divine QoL patch.

    "Let's make Horoscope easier to use"
    "Let's make Sleeve Draw less hostile for controller players"
    "Let's take a look at SCH weaving/fey lag, and see how we can make it smoother"
    "Let's reimagine Synastry since every single data point we have suggests that even optimal use of this ability amounts to nothing. Players are also saying they need more healing on AST, can we treat this as an opportunity to solve two problems with one elegant solution?"
    "Let's give WHM some interactivity between spells and abilities, and while we're at it, some low-key utility that adds to the feel of WHM-as-powerhouse, because we want to really fix AST cards, and to do that every healer will need a bit more rdps oomph."
    "Let's update cards! We don't have resources for a rework, but how can we give the player more ways to use all those cards?"
    "Let's offer SCH some faerie choices. What if we tied Fey Wind to the same cooldown as Whispering Dawn? What kind of potency/duration would it need to comfortably take second seat to WD as necessary?"
    "Let's give WHM back all the stuff we've taken from them over the years. How can we implement (an innovative, unique) Stoneskin in a way that isn't just a shield, and doesn't change tanking rotations/priorities?"

    The not-response we've gotten from them suggests to me (more and more) that they've never considered asking these questions. Let alone look for answers.
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    Eijala Wyman
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    Louisoix
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by tesni_g View Post
    A single healer main on staff would solve 90% of our complaints in one divine QoL patch.

    "Let's make Horoscope easier to use"
    "Let's make Sleeve Draw less hostile for controller players"
    "Let's take a look at SCH weaving/fey lag, and see how we can make it smoother"
    "Let's reimagine Synastry since every single data point we have suggests that even optimal use of this ability amounts to nothing. Players are also saying they need more healing on AST, can we treat this as an opportunity to solve two problems with one elegant solution?"
    "Let's give WHM some interactivity between spells and abilities, and while we're at it, some low-key utility that adds to the feel of WHM-as-powerhouse, because we want to really fix AST cards, and to do that every healer will need a bit more rdps oomph."
    "Let's update cards! We don't have resources for a rework, but how can we give the player more ways to use all those cards?"
    "Let's offer SCH some faerie choices. What if we tied Fey Wind to the same cooldown as Whispering Dawn? What kind of potency/duration would it need to comfortably take second seat to WD as necessary?"
    "Let's give WHM back all the stuff we've taken from them over the years. How can we implement (an innovative, unique) Stoneskin in a way that isn't just a shield, and doesn't change tanking rotations/priorities?"

    The not-response we've gotten from them suggests to me (more and more) that they've never considered asking these questions. Let alone look for answers.
    Don't worry! Everything will be fixed comes 6.0!

    Each healer will just have the same 350 main spell that's an aoe and has a 60s dot attached to it, and one healing spell that's a 600 potency aoe! No more button bloat!

    SCH will have Seraph turned into a third fairy skin, and Embrace's potency will be reduced to 75!

    WHM will once again contribute to the healer role as a whole, by making Fluid Aura a healer-only emote!

    And AST will be able to draw cards and pretend they're useful, for a most comedic effect!

    Please look forward to it!
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    Tesni Ginlimian
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lodi View Post
    Don't worry! Everything will be fixed comes 6.0!

    Each healer will just have the same 350 main spell that's an aoe and has a 60s dot attached to it, and one healing spell that's a 600 potency aoe! No more button bloat!

    SCH will have Seraph turned into a third fairy skin, and Embrace's potency will be reduced to 75!

    WHM will once again contribute to the healer role as a whole, by making Fluid Aura a healer-only emote!

    And AST will be able to draw cards and pretend they're useful, for a most comedic effect!

    Please look forward to it!
    I laughed and then I cried.
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    Billythepancake's Avatar
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 80
    After playing it for the first time in over a year, and I can't believe I'm doing this, but I'm going to praise league of legends. Now, I absolutely hate that game, it is just, ugh. But, they have the right mentality when it comes to design, one I wish SE would adapt "fun and unique FIRST balance SECOND, and never sacrifice the first for the second, no matter how easy of a route that is" and while that game still has a ton of issues, credit where it is due, no 2 champions feel anything alike, even if they do the same job, which is saying something when they have so many characters. I honestly wish SE would adapt the same mentality.

    Seriously, you know it's bad if I'm saying league did it better than you, that game is garbage coded onto a computer.
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    Character
    Quilia Labro
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    If anything, ShB's mishandling of SCH has given me time to check out other games and activites. Might've missed Astral Chain or not relived moments in a 15 year old MMO which are just fun to play around in. Story, music, presentation in FF are all still great, but beyond the superficial I miss the time I also put "playing scholar" among those pros.

    Would love if I knew they were listening or said they had something entirely new and exciting lined up for the job and role, but Live Letters and lack of SE presence here makes the impression they are either unaware of healers or just don't see it as an issue.
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