Please implement a lottery for plots instead of spamming placards for hours

[IkaraGreydancer]

Or just not sit there for hours, spamming the placard?

I get it. You really want a house. But there are much better ways to house-hunt. There are plenty of communities out there with the sole intent to minimize how many hours you're there, clicking on a placard like a zombie. Some even go the extra mile and you can be pinged (on discord, that is) when a house on your server goes up for sale, so you can pick-and-choose which ones to go pay attention to with the highest chance of getting a house being in the Goblet. (Assumedly, at least.)

Personally, getting a house isn't worth any stress or pain (physical or otherwise) you may put yourself through by depriving yourself of basic needs.

Not saying you do, but I know a few people that have gone the entire day (for them it was 30 or so hours of camping) barely eating or drinking. Because of the firm belief that when they leave, it sells.

Yeah...doesnt matter if youre "proactive" or not.
If you arent there at the right time you arent getting a house. Especially on a high pop server.
And you can put worth on something for someone else. Thats not for you to decide.
People (like myself) have those beliefs because weve seen it happen countless times.

[Kenky]

you can put worth on something for someone else. Thats not for you to decide.

while that's true, I find that statement rather humorous.

You realize that is you outright admitting that a house. A virtual thing in a Virtual world means more to you than your general health and wellbeing? Do you know how terrible that is? Like.. From any perspective? You won't really be able to enjoy that lovely house of yours if you black out and suffer damage (very rarely is it permanent, but plenty of things can have lingering effects) over it.

I can personally doubt anyone would enjoy buying a house, only to lose it because they got hospitalized due to not taking care of themselves. (A gross over-statement, but the point still stands.)

But hey, if you want to sit there for hours, clicking and spamming a placard and slowly risk more and more health issues (carpel tunnel being the most risky one from such an 'exercise') then I guess more power to you..? You do you, I suppose. But that still sounds ludicrous.

[IkaraGreydancer]

while that's true, I find that statement rather humorous.

You realize that is you outright admitting that a house. A virtual thing in a Virtual world means more to you than your general health and wellbeing? Do you know how terrible that is? Like.. From any perspective? You won't really be able to enjoy that lovely house of yours if you black out and suffer damage (very rarely is it permanent, but plenty of things can have lingering effects) over it.

I can personally doubt anyone would enjoy buying a house, only to lose it because they got hospitalized due to not taking care of themselves. (A gross over-statement, but the point still stands.)

But hey, if you want to sit there for hours, clicking and spamming a placard and slowly risk more and more health issues (carpel tunnel being the most risky one from such an 'exercise') then I guess more power to you..? You do you, I suppose. But that still sounds ludicrous.

Way to take my comment and completely blow it out of proportion. And please show me where I said any of that in my post.

[Kenky]

Way to take my comment and completely blow it out of proportion. And please show me where I said any of that in my post.

Pretty easy.

People (like myself) have those beliefs because weve seen it happen countless times.

There you go. You admitting your belief of "if I leave, it sells and I lose it" low-key stating that you are ignoring general health concerns, because that would take you away from the virtual house you're trying to obtain.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Pretty easy.



There you go. You admitting your belief of "if I leave, it sells and I lose it" low-key stating that you are ignoring general health concerns, because that would take you away from the virtual house you're trying to obtain.

You just added that part on...I dont understand you honestly. In my experience ive lost houses due to leaving and taking a short break. NOWHERE IN MY POST DID I SAY I WAS IGNORING HEALTH CONCERNS!!! AND IF I DID SAY THOSE EXACT WORDS QUOTE IT. I didnt "lowkey state" anything. That's you putting words in my mouth.
And nice little jab at the end there. Feel better?

[Kenky]

You just added that part on...I dont understand you honestly. In my experience ive lost houses due to leaving and taking a short break. NOWHERE IN MY POST DID I SAY I WAS IGNORING HEALTH CONCERNS!!! AND IF I DID SAY THOSE EXACT WORDS QUOTE IT. I didnt "lowkey state" anything. That's you putting words in my mouth.
And nice little jab at the end there. Feel better?

You're just trying to start a fight and it's not going to work, hun. The "If I meant that, I would've said that" defense is filled with plenty of holes, especially when personal interpretation is involved. If you value a house in FFXIV so highly, why would it be out of the realm of possibility for you to prioritize that over your well-being? Because -you- are different to everyone else that is doing it? because you're special? Because you "know better"?

Please. There are plenty of people already threatening to abandon their subs or commit physical harm because they're not getting what they want. At this point, it's better to assume (And sadly expect) the worst.

But still, I'm not saying that belief is wrong. Only that some people (that I know of, could be a lot more that doesn't voice it) take it to a worrysome extreme. I've lost houses by looking away for only a second, so I've been in your shoes. I'm just trying to (hopefully) point out that it's not an all-or-nothing.. That if you're actively getting annoyed or frustrated over the systems set in place, then you may need to take a break.

There'll always be more houses out there, waiting to be picked up. You're not doing yourself any favours by driving yourself into insanity.

[IkaraGreydancer]

You're just trying to start a fight and it's not going to work, hun. The "If I meant that, I would've said that" defense is filled with plenty of holes, especially when personal interpretation is involved. If you value a house in FFXIV so highly, why would it be out of the realm of possibility for you to prioritize that over your well-being? Because -you- are different to everyone else that is doing it? because you're special? Because you "know better"?

Please. There are plenty of people already threatening to abandon their subs or commit physical harm because they're not getting what they want. At this point, it's better to assume (And sadly expect) the worst.

But still, I'm not saying that belief is wrong. Only that some people (that I know of, could be a lot more that doesn't voice it) take it to a worrysome extreme. I've lost houses by looking away for only a second, so I've been in your shoes. I'm just trying to (hopefully) point out that it's not an all-or-nothing.. That if you're actively getting annoyed or frustrated over the systems set in place, then you may need to take a break.

There'll always be more houses out there, waiting to be picked up. You're not doing yourself any favours by driving yourself into insanity.

And if thats the point you wanted to get across you shouldve said that instead of putting words in my mouth or interpreting without asking what I meant exactly. Thats all.
You make a fair point honestly.
But I dont agree that its not an all or nothing cause it is if you arent lucky. You have a better shot the more time you put into these buuut that does come with a risk.
Me personally? Ive said screw housing because in my eyes its not designed to benefit anyone that doesnt already own (ie you can relocate at will with no cooldown and screw others who could have been there for hours waiting). Its the only thing is this game that you can put loads of time into and come out with literally nothing.
Instanced housing is the ONLY fix in my eyes. More wards (ie. Ishgard) is just another band aid....
Hell id be happy if they made apartments shareable lol Id abandon the housing forum and never return

[Casra]

Yeah...doesnt matter if youre "proactive" or not.
If you arent there at the right time you arent getting a house. Especially on a high pop server.
And you can put worth on something for someone else. Thats not for you to decide.
People (like myself) have those beliefs because weve seen it happen countless times.

Kenky is very pro=-SE housing, and it's very abrasive IMHO

[Kenky]

Kenky is very pro=-SE housing, and it's very abrasive IMHO

Not so much "Pro-SE" but more so "Anti-idiot".

The suggestions and recommendations offered by the playerbase have consequences and extreme issues with them that people refuse to admit or accept. The system that's currently in place is because people exploited the system. So what do you do? Suggest things that can easily be exploited

Lottery? Buy multiple tickets, since the general assumption is the "Ticket" is per character, not per account. Meaning someone with 8 characters has a much higher % chance.
Auction? Congratulations, you've alienated everyone but the richest folk on the server because they could jack up the price so high that nobody gets it.

Think about your recommendations and suggestions before suggesting them. Maybe then you won't fall into the same pitfalls as other people.

[Casra]

Not so much "Pro-SE" but more so "Anti-idiot".

The suggestions and recommendations offered by the playerbase have consequences and extreme issues with them that people refuse to admit or accept. The system that's currently in place is because people exploited the system. So what do you do? Suggest things that can easily be exploited

Lottery? Buy multiple tickets, since the general assumption is the "Ticket" is per character, not per account. Meaning someone with 8 characters has a much higher % chance.
Auction? Congratulations, you've alienated everyone but the richest folk on the server because they could jack up the price so high that nobody gets it.

Think about your recommendations and suggestions before suggesting them. Maybe then you won't fall into the same pitfalls as other people.

That you presume those that disagree with your position are idiots is very abrasive, and you proved me quite correct. You are toxic.