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  1. #51
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    Hatstand's Avatar
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    Jenny Davar
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    Kujata
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    Weaver Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    Incoming healer rage
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    not sure if 100% and tell me if its wrong but SAM being worst melee DPS is big oof
    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    Seems about right where SE wants us.
    I'm going to stay samurai because its fun but I given up SE actually giving samurai the dps its suppose to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    uuhhh are you looking at the pre 5.08 when nin is near the bottom and not after 5.08 when nin is above SAM?
    Ummm... incoming dps rage?
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    Last edited by Hatstand; 08-29-2019 at 08:00 PM.

  2. #52
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    Sathona's Avatar
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    Sathona Jun
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    Ragnarok
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhus View Post
    Goodbye Blm from raid teams. Was nice seeing you in there for a while. Raid teams gonna be like ...

    RT: hey Ninja, how you doing mate? Been a while. What? No we never hated you. You’re the bestest. What? That guy? Nah we never really liked him anyway, have you seen that stupid hat he wears?
    Why would NIN replace BLM again? -insertPeepoWeird emote-

    Quote Originally Posted by Scryar View Post
    Did they just forget the ranged dps and rdm? And sam is still behind monk, while offering 0 raidbuffs.
    It was just prelim changes for 5.1

    Thats when major adjustments will come and they said that on the live letter too,shouldnt have expected anything major~
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  3. #53
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I think personally, I would consider that current buffs may not even be the final(ish) ones jobs get. Given it's not really a major patch, and they're already in the middle of working on the actual major stuff, probably these are just the buffs/changes they knew they could safely make without wildly tipping balance, giving them a little more breathing room to make more fine-tuned adjustments later.

    But I'm not an endgame player, so my opinion amounts to little.
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  4. #54
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    Pepsi_Plunge's Avatar
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    Pepsi Plunge
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    Lich
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    I've looked up a NIN who did nearly those rDPS in a fight before the patch: 12.794,3. Now, most of the dmg comes from "attack" which didn't change. There are also other skills which doesn't change. So I only look at the total numbers of the now changed attacks: 5.446 DPS

    5.446 out of 12.794 DPS

    So yeah, the excel-numbers above are indeed very, very false.
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    Last edited by Pepsi_Plunge; 08-29-2019 at 08:43 PM.
    Pepsis Eorzea-Tagebuch:
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  5. #55
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    UnrealTai's Avatar
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    Laernu Tairos
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    Maduin
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Ya the Ninja potency buffs are, insanely weak imo. Only looking good on paper.

    @452 vs a dummy pre patch I would hit 11.5k after 3 minutes.
    After patch, same rotation, which I use all of that was buffed before and after, its same exact dps at the 3 minute mark. Maybe hundred difference. So ninja is pretty much still where it was.

    Very disappointed with nin still, no where near enough to compete with a blm, or even a mch.
    For all its purpose I dont see why even bother buffing it like this, because as provided, this does basically nothing.
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    Last edited by UnrealTai; 08-29-2019 at 08:37 PM.

  6. #56
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    Scryar's Avatar
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    Ares Cassis
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post


    not sure if 100% and tell me if its wrong but SAM being worst melee DPS is big oof
    This shows how awful the balance is. Why are summoner and red mage 1,2k and 1.5k RDPS behind BLM? Assuming a optimal use of their raidbuffs their rdps should be slightly higher then the selfish dps of a blm. Then you can take a way a few hundred dps for their raise and have summoner 200-300 and rdm 300-500 behind black mage in rdps. But the current gap is just ridiculous.
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  7. #57
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    ArashiStormbreaker's Avatar
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    Arashi Stormbreaker
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    Dark Knight Lv 78
    Mmmmm but... But the plan was not to make a complete rework of the Ninja? those are just a small buff not a rework owo
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  8. #58
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    Laernu Tairos
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    Maduin
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    Ninja Lv 90
    But this is not a buff either. By definition? Ya sure.

    But 12.7k dps now doing 12.8k? If you call this a buff then idk what to say, this was a waste of time imo.

    Making that full layout in the patch notes for ninja was more impressive then what ninja actually does post patch. Its kind of insulting to ninjas.

    The buff to Ninja should be enough for people to stop locking it out of PFs.
    This is not going to change that problem.

    Ty for those charts pepsi. Pretty much confirms the overall feeling of being crapped on I had when testing it at servers up time.
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    Last edited by UnrealTai; 08-29-2019 at 08:42 PM.

  9. #59
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    Pepsi Plunge
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    Lich
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Sorry, my math was false too. I will go over it again.

    Edit: Here we go:



    Looks better now but still not as high as the first numbers (an increase of 600 DPS in this case). So it should be now where SAM was before. But dunno. I think I got everything covered but maybe I still made a mistake somewhere. Guess we'll see actual numbers soon enough.
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    Last edited by Pepsi_Plunge; 08-29-2019 at 09:11 PM.
    Pepsis Eorzea-Tagebuch:
    https://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/22850747/blog/


  10. #60
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    Aomine1992's Avatar
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhus View Post
    Goodbye Blm from raid teams. Was nice seeing you in there for a while. Raid teams gonna be like ...

    RT: hey Ninja, how you doing mate? Been a while. What? No we never hated you. You’re the bestest. What? That guy? Nah we never really liked him anyway, have you seen that stupid hat he wears?
    Well this actually means by last ranged spot we are running triple melee with a BLM lol if you wanna be frank. Honestly
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