5.08 Patch Notes up

**dinnertime** · 08-30-2019 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by ChaoticCrimson

Thing is, you had to weave a lot as a SMN in StB too. It's not really any busier now than it was then. The "busy-ness" is not really the issue with SMN, at least not in and of itself.

If that were true, people wouldn't be complaining about the job's busy-ness now, would they? Yes, it's not the *big* issue, but it definitely contributes to how terrible SMN is to play right now.

**CatStarPrime** · 08-30-2019 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by dinnertime

If that were true, people wouldn't be complaining about the job's busy-ness now, would they? Yes, it's not the *big* issue, but it definitely contributes to how terrible SMN is to play right now.

Chalk me up in the minority, then, because I like how SMN plays right now, and I've been doing the Carbuncle Shuffle since the first October of ARR.

I also enjoy driving fast cars with manual transmissions. I like the enjoyment of cranking out perfectly-timed gear shifts... and I enjoy the satisfaction of a run of perfect keypress / mouseclick sequences. Elegant weapons... for a more civilized age.

My only real gripe about SMN is losing Titan-Egi as a genuine Tank type. That's making me work too much in open-world hunting

**Kougeru** · 08-30-2019 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by ChaoticCrimson

Thing is, you had to weave a lot as a SMN in StB too. It's not really any busier now than it was then. The "busy-ness" is not really the issue with SMN, at least not in and of itself.

There's a lot more weaving now. in SB we weaved Fester, Bane, Pain Flare, Enkindle, Trance, and that's basically all. Now we get have pet skills that we have to manually weave into as well, 2 per minute. we also pretty much HAVE to weave Lucid Dreaming in now as well. Rarely had MP issues before. in SB we spammed Ruin 3 like 90% of the time and pet was mostly on auto after the opener.

How busy the job is IS an issue because it's pushed a lot of people away from the job. It's not the main issue though. The main point when people mention how busy it is, is just that we work a lot harder than other jobs and don't get rewarded for it. Some people argue difficulty of a job shouldn't matter, but it really should. People should be rewarded for how hard their job is to play, with DPS scaled with the difficulty of said job. Difficulty should be balanced against utility and such. Right now it seems they only look at "utility" and w/e job the devs like at the moment (always BLM lol)

**TheForce** · 08-30-2019 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by Leathium

Nothing for DRKs yet q-q

DRK probably isn't going to get anything. I believe that Yoshi P said that he was overall pretty satisfied when asked about the state of Tanks.

**KadaRemnant** · 08-30-2019 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by TheForce

DRK probably isn't going to get anything. I believe that Yoshi P said that he was overall pretty satisfied when asked about the state of Tanks.

I'm really satisfied with how tanks are too.

**Shougun** · 08-30-2019 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

RDM is being taxed far too heavily for its Verraise utility. More so than it was in SB. But they seem to think this is "fine".

I feel like perhaps they could make them hard capped on potent raise support and then allow that as an excuse to not only go back on the tax to SB era but even further reduce that tax. Like for Summoner they get one instant raise on X second cooldown. Somewhere balanced around the cooldown of swiftcast which for reference has 60 seconds. If you wanted you could also add a cooldown reduction mechanic just for fun, like each egi assault or something reduces the cooldown slightly (it still should be long enough to make the raise tax minimal though, and allow the job more damage or whatever else.. titan shield utility or something lol). May also give SMN another slot by removing swift cast then, which you can technically use for the other already really fast spells SMN has but... eh.. by removing it you could use that saved slot for another new ability (or I guess players could just choose not to put it on the bar lol).

Then Red Mage has a slightly longer cooldown than summoner but may hold up to two raise charges, both of them having the short cast times (red mage has two types of spells, long and short, referring to the shorter ones that don't need to be primed- the raise is the primer now). Of course you could short cast into an instant cast if you wanted (double raise), and of course that means you're out of both charges and it's now on full cooldown.

Just something to reduce the tax as you put it on the jobs, allowing them more justified room in the damage departments- especially Red Mage. I imagine some might miss the chain spell 5 raises potential but it's a bit bonkers (totally kills your mana/damage lol, and apparently is causing a damage reduction on the job), rather then you could deal more damage and the party if doing poorly will just restart instead of going into raise euphoria.

**TaiyouSeishin** · 08-30-2019 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by Duskane

not sure if 100% and tell me if its wrong but SAM being worst melee DPS is big oof

If it is rdps as it says, then nins personal dps is lower than SAM as it should be, tho im still surprised SAM didnt get bigger buffs, SAM should be the highest pdps, with the shift in rdps based on utility utilization.

**Renato** · 08-30-2019 07:00 AM

I like the changes to SAM outside of Kaeshi: Higanbana which I never use. Honestly, I'm waiting to see what kind of changes they make to Shoha which is completely useless.

**xxvaynxx** · 08-30-2019 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Renato

I like the changes to SAM outside of Kaeshi: Higanbana which I never use. Honestly, I'm waiting to see what kind of changes they make to Shoha which is completely useless.

Kaeshi Higanbana is useless, it will only be good if you can stack it and if tsubame is a 30sec CD.

**Duskane** · 08-30-2019 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by Renato

I like the changes to SAM outside of Kaeshi: Higanbana which I never use. Honestly, I'm waiting to see what kind of changes they make to Shoha which is completely useless.

Probably will be Like monks chakra but each midaire or something gives us a stack

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