The difference between WoW and FF14

[Nixxe]

If they aren't liable, then they really have no reason to police the chat so adamantly.

If the game environment is unpleasant, it hurts their bottom line. What matters to SE is dollars, not whether or not you feel stifled.

You haven't ruffled my feathers at all. Read my posts in a monotone if you must.

[HumanNinjaToo]

If the game environment is unpleasant, it hurts their bottom line. What matters to SE is dollars, not whether or not you feel stifled.

The flip side of that coin is that too much censorship can also lead to an unpleasant game environment, which could also lead to people leaving the game and therefor negatively impacting the SE wallet. I am not saying you are wrong necessarily, I'm saying that too much in either direction is a bad thing; and that too much censorship tends to be a really bad thing.

You haven't ruffled my feathers at all. Read my posts in a monotone if you must.

My mistake then.

[Nixxe]

The flip side of that coin is that too much censorship can also lead to an unpleasant game environment, which could also lead to people leaving the game and therefor negatively impacting the SE wallet. I am not saying you are wrong necessarily, I'm saying that too much in either direction is a bad thing; and that too much censorship tends to be a really bad thing.

Sure, but I've already addressed that. There's no evidence of "too much" outside of the forums, which naturally lend themselves to magnifying negativity. The in-game experience is what matters and I see little evidence that the TOS is having any discernible negative impact on that. The overall nature and quality of the chat isn't drastically different from any other game I've played, except as a consequence of how chat channels are structured, and some of those games are practically free-for-alls for one reason or another.

[HumanNinjaToo]

Sure, but I've already addressed that. There's no evidence of "too much" outside of the forums, which naturally lend themselves to magnifying negativity. The in-game experience is what matters and I see little evidence that the TOS is having any discernible negative impact on that. The overall nature and quality of the chat isn't drastically different from any other game I've played, except as a consequence of how chat channels are structured, and some of those games are practically free-for-alls for one reason or another.

Maybe this is your experience, however, your experience is not everyone else's experience. I think if it was such an isolated issue I wouldn't be reading it on the forums every day and hearing about it in-game as often as I do.

[Nixxe]

Maybe this is your experience, however, your experience is not everyone else's experience. I think if it was such an isolated issue I wouldn't be reading it on the forums every day and hearing about it in-game as often as I do.

Which is bad reasoning on your part. As I already explained, the forums naturally lend themselves to magnifying negativity. You also only get one carefully-presented side. Astonishingly, people tend to feel their actions were justified and frequently unabashedly lie even when they know they were in the wrong.

[Saintly]

Which is bad reasoning on your part. As I already explained, the forums naturally lend themselves to magnifying negativity. You also only get one carefully-presented side. Astonishingly, people tend to feel their actions were justified and frequently unabashedly lie even when they know they were in the wrong.

I think you miss the point.
Some of us have already seen first hand how ridiculously easily you can get in trouble here.

As i said earlier, i already got a warning for the term "trash tier" cause it offended a special snowflake.
In any other game if someone reported someone over that the GM's would roll on the floor laughing at how touchy the said person is.

Report abuse/giving in to whiners is a problem in this game no matter how much some people want to decline that.
The question is if SE gonna notice that before or later the damage is done to the games reputation.

[Nixxe]

I think you miss the point.
Some of us have already seen first hand how ridiculously easily you can get in trouble here.

As i said earlier, i already got a warning for the term "trash tier" cause it offended a special snowflake.
In any other game if someone reported someone over that the GM's would roll on the floor laughing at how touchy the said person is.

Report abuse/giving in to whiners is a problem in this game no matter how much some people want to decline that.
The question is if SE gonna notice that before or later the damage is done to the games reputation.

You can't even express yourself without referring to other players disparagingly. I can see why you'd have a problem.

[jameseoakes]

I think you miss the point.
Some of us have already seen first hand how ridiculously easily you can get in trouble here.

As i said earlier, i already got a warning for the term "trash tier" cause it offended a special snowflake.
In any other game if someone reported someone over that the GM's would roll on the floor laughing at how touchy the said person is.

Report abuse/giving in to whiners is a problem in this game no matter how much some people want to decline that.
The question is if SE gonna notice that before or later the damage is done to the games reputation.

Those are pretty unpleasant ways to talk to someone, so your warning seems justified

[Liam_Harper]

Some of us have already seen first hand how ridiculously easily you can get in trouble here.

As i said earlier, i already got a warning for the term "trash tier" cause it offended a special snowflake.
In any other game if someone reported someone over that the GM's would roll on the floor laughing at how touchy the said person is.

It's also ridiculously easy not to get in trouble.

Don't immediately call other players "trash tier", "idiots", tell them they suck or any of the other insults that you and others throw around happily. In other words, be a decent human being. That's all you have to do and there are still people up in arms about having to behave.

It's nothing about being touchy. Some players seem to feel they have a right to insult others because it's the victims responsibility to grow a thicker skin so therefore the fault must lie with them. It's not ok to be rude. In the real world there would be consequences.

I'm glad Enix has decided they don't need the rude players. It's hilarious that you feel that would damage their reputation. Like people would comment on the game "ew ff14? that's the game where you can't even be a huge jerk, don't even bother, WoW is way better". As if games like WoW don't have a bad reputation because they're toxic.

[Saintly]

The flip side of that coin is that too much censorship can also lead to an unpleasant game environment, which could also lead to people leaving the game and therefor negatively impacting the SE wallet.

This.
Currently they damage their own game by giving in to the crybabies and the report abuse.