The difference between WoW and FF14

[Makeda]

So I guess sadly this thread itself has outed one example of toxic players in this game as well with that person who was calling the OP deadweight... I won't quote him, several others already have.

So, now you know... they do in fact also exist here.


Recently I've had an uptick in toxic players here. The morality police sorts I noted on a prior page of the thread...

Back in WoW, at least anytime I went over to Alliance side, the general / trade chat had at least one if not several racist rants a day... and those would sometimes go on and on for hours after being reported - log out, come back, and the same folks would still be at it...

- I have seen that here, but limited to Discord where SE can't tough them. So those players are still around... but they keep it out of game. An FC I was in on Coeurl in early August... had to leave them after that.

I did definitely run into more people with nasty attitudes a lot more often in random instanced content while playing WoW then I did XIV.

I've had more bad social experiences in XIV then WoW, though...

Yeah... and that makes me think on this too...

More nasty folks in WoW, but also less social here...

I think the presence of 'elitist sorts' is actually stronger here than in WoW. Raiding communities in both rely heavily on external logging sites. But WoW raiders tend to use a trial period to see how your logs look with them rather than look at prior logs. What FFXIV calls 'midcore' raiders WoW would see as Hardcore, as far as social dynamics go. And most raiders there are not in that sphere of things.

I think it's also easier to be, or rather get over; being a stranger in WoW... I've done server transfers in both games at points - and in WoW it is a lot easier to 'break through' into a new community after doing that.

FFXIV servers seem to just not be easy to find new friends on. I could go back to WoW, pick a new server; and I'd probably have a dozen friends within a week. Here, that could take me 6+ months and only then if I was actively hunting them down and pestering people...
- I suspect this is a sideeffect of the linkshell system. In WoW to communicate outside your guild with multiple people you're going to do it in zone, general, or trade - and it broadcasts wide, so people join in... and you meet new people - both good and bad.
- Here all of that goes private very quickly and communities become insular.


Also... I like revealing glams, I find them cute. Despite the constant racism and also sexism I see in WoW, nobody has ever morality police 'shamed me' for a glamour choice there, nor tried to force ERP on me...