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    Player
    Avidria's Avatar
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    Avi Taro
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    I've anted to wear a lot of the guys' outfits for a while now, but the only male race I even remotely enjoy playing is Cat Boy (that and I absolutely love Viera... and also male Viera don't exist lmao)

    Give everyone some more options pls thx - and I don't just mean cash shop items... There are so many pieces where the male version of the same piece just looks *better* imo and it's really frustrating that I can't get that same look.
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    Alijana Tumet
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    I think I mainly want the swimsuit legpieces to not be gender-locked.

    Not all females are into bikini bottoms when it comes to beachwear so making the shorts options available to them while also giving the guys more variety in speedos would be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I think I mainly want the swimsuit legpieces to not be gender-locked.

    Not all females are into bikini bottoms when it comes to beachwear so making the shorts options available to them while also giving the guys more variety in speedos would be nice.
    But then you have to take into account design. There would have to be 2 of each item, which would be more work than payoff. You'd have to get the cutsey moonfire bikini bottoms to fit over Hrothbros and the shorts to work on a female frame. Some bottoms are made with female hips and vagoos to be PG-13 covered and I know for a fact the black coeurl bikini bottoms would be showing a whole lot of groin without edits.

    And it wouldn't just be the bottoms, because people would immediately demand the tops, and by immediately I mean now. It wont stop, it'll be asked for during QA threads, it'll be a headache. See Yoshi's face every time someone asks questions like it.
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    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    But then you have to take into account design. There would have to be 2 of each item, which would be more work than payoff. You'd have to get the cutsey moonfire bikini bottoms to fit over Hrothbros and the shorts to work on a female frame. Some bottoms are made with female hips and vagoos to be PG-13 covered and I know for a fact the black coeurl bikini bottoms would be showing a whole lot of groin without edits.

    And it wouldn't just be the bottoms, because people would immediately demand the tops, and by immediately I mean now. It wont stop, it'll be asked for during QA threads, it'll be a headache. See Yoshi's face every time someone asks questions like it.
    It isn't anywhere near as complicated as people are making it out to be.

    Remember that these aren't real articles of clothing. It's not like having to stretch cloth over a body that it wasn't meant for. It's literally just forming the item to all the available player models. It's really not that hard.

    As for "it won't stop" yeah... it shouldn't. Just model all visible gear to be usable by all players. This isn't unusual in games with customizable characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    It isn't anywhere near as complicated as people are making it out to be.

    Remember that these aren't real articles of clothing. It's not like having to stretch cloth over a body that it wasn't meant for. It's literally just forming the item to all the available player models. It's really not that hard.

    As for "it won't stop" yeah... it shouldn't. Just model all visible gear to be usable by all players. This isn't unusual in games with customizable characters.
    It's not even as close to as simple as you may think either, see my post on the first page where I go into technical detail on the system Square has setup for this game, there is no base model to form things over.

    To make a piece of gear for both genders and all races, they'd have to:

    1) Make it for female Hyur.
    2) Use various racial scaling modifiers to form it to the correct proportions for the rest of the shared body skeletons in the category.
    3) fix weights, scaling issues, etc.
    4) Re-sculpt the piece to fit female lalafell & male lalafell.
    5) repeat #3
    6) Re-sculpt it again to fit male Hyur
    7) Repeat #2 & 3
    8) Re-sculpt it once again for Hrothgar/Roegadyn
    9) repeat #2 & 3
    10) Potentially re-sculpt it once again if the piece requires a different skeleton for Au Ra & Highlander
    11) repeat #2 & 3

    Literally in the case of male Hyur ---> Hrothgar/Roegadyn, it is literally like having to stretch cloth over a body it wasn't meant for. And that's just for the modelling. Textures might need modification depending on how the piece itself is affected, since upscaling a piece from the size of a Hyur to a Hrothgar would look terrible and cause pixelation without modification. Then they have to do Q&A, make sure certain attributes are hiding when paired with other pieces of gear, make sure the gear itself is working correctly, repeat #3 again & again till the weights on the piece are correct and working with the physics engine correctly.
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    Narukai Nephilim
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    It would be nice if their was more one-piece swim suits rather then bikinis all the time. As for speedos they do have them in game as well as 'man-kinis' but as far as I can see female characters only have one one-piece bathing suit.
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    “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.”

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    Samniel Atkascha
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    2 one-pieces, if we're counting the striped and solid variations (I don't). I'd really like other types of swimsuit on females that aren't a bikini... and the one-piece clips horribly because of the little skirt
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    Dorothea Titania
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    A more inclusive game with more customization options for everybody to use equally > random people complaining about politics or being woke. Seriously grow up.
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    Haures Bune
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    No For lore reasons

    No because people who want this jump on other people's threads and make a big deal when they want something
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Quote Originally Posted by BHolland View Post
    No For lore reasons

    ....... El Oh El

    Sure no problem, I'll just fly around in my sports car shall I or my motorcycle? Or maybe dress up as Santa Claus?
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