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  1. #21
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    HumanNinjaToo's Avatar
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    Blaise Darkstar
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 65
    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    Then it just becomes "Sell Apple for 5mil" only people who would buy it is the bot farmers to send the gil to the main account. Which I admit would in turn allow them to see which account holds it but I would like to also assume they can find the random jibberish names with millions of gil at level 1.
    True, but I would think it easier to keep an eye on the MB for blatantly obvious transactions like selling/buying an apple for 5mil Gil, versus having to comb through the ridiculous amounts of player to player transfers and mog mail. Not to mention, MB transactions are available for all of us to see, while the other player to player transactions must be rooted out by a GM. I would think they could add a RMT report option for MB transactions that scream RMT; then they have another option for these issues to be brought to GM attention.


    EDIT: To be fair, a lot of those random gibberish names look very similar to the FF name generator names.
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  2. #22
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    Niwashi's Avatar
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Coeurl
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    Ninja Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by HumanNinjaToo View Post
    I am not saying removing the MB, I am saying remove the ability for one player to transfer goods/gil to another player via individual trade screen/mog mail.
    Then it doesn't do anything to gil sellers. The MB is already a common way for them to transfer gil. Becoming the exclusive way wouldn't matter to them.


    Quote Originally Posted by HumanNinjaToo View Post
    I would think they could add a RMT report option for MB transactions that scream RMT
    Nothing would scream RMT. It would only scream gil transfer through the MB, but that's already the most common way for players to transfer gil to their alts, and would immediately become the way people transfer gil to friends as well. So long as transferring gil through the market board is possible (i.e. so long as the market board exists) people will continue to trade gil with each other for both legitimate and illegitimate reasons, and nothing will have been accomplished except to make it a little more of a hassle. Players care about hassle. Bots don't.
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  3. #23
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 65
    Fair enough I guess.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendaryKing View Post
    Hi there guys,

    I've been thinking about this and i've been seeing alot of people getting frustrated by this bot problem caused by RMT businesses.
    So here is my suggestion to the problem which is a sure fire way to ban every single one of them.

    METHOD:

    • Bots do not use RAND code to randomize their walking patterns and always land on the same coordinates for example: Waypoint 1 x25-y42 => Waypoints 2 x29-y40 etc etc.

    • A code as simple as a IF ELSE structure even will get this job done lol.
    If the character triggers the set waypoint 2 or 3 times EXACTLY as it is in the ban script, proceed to auto ban account.

    Players will NEVER behave in the same way as bots with their walking pattern, maybe once by accident but never 2 or 3 times in a row. (Hence the 2x 3x trigger)

    BUT THEY WILL JUST RETURN?:
    Well offcourse they will.... for a little while
    Since their accounts will never reach even Lv20 with this ban script they won't make any Gil to sell.
    Even worse for them, they bought another account so it's a net loss for them.

    BUT WHAT IF I GET BANNED BY THIS, IM NOT A BOT? :
    The chances of you triggering the exact same pattern as a bot does is non-existent, even if you follow them.


    My conclusion... if a simple method as this will stop them for even a short while until they randomize their waypoints we'll take it until there is a waterproof method to prevent them from ever starting the game with 3rd party bot tools.
    Don't let pleb programmers outshine you SE
    The issue is the bot makers will quickly figure this out and adjust them accordingly.
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