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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirhd View Post
    Emet is an actual character, which is probably why. Asahi's entire schtick was "am yandere. u keeled senpai, I keel u". I don't necessarily have a problem with such figures as even they have a place, but he wasn't even interesting or entertaining in that regard. For me it was just "good, he's dead" and he was immediately forgotten.

    Emet had me teary eyed even as I knew he needed to be stopped, and I lament the lack of a minion.

    ... No, really, minion please, SE.
    Couldn't have explained it better. It's exacly that

    And yes please. Emet minion ♥
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkMasamune View Post
    Emet is best boi. I actually think he's the first antagonist I really loved in FFXIV.

    ...I still remember despising Asahi so much, I'm glad that little insect is gone. I didn't despise him like a good villain should be hated. He was just so annoying to me lol
    Don't you just love antagonists that should be logically killed as soon as possible but you can't because the writers won't let you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkMasamune View Post
    Emet is best boi. I actually think he's the first antagonist I really loved in FFXIV.

    ...I still remember despising Asahi so much, I'm glad that little insect is gone. I didn't despise him like a good villain should be hated. He was just so annoying to me lol
    Honestly Asahi bothered me more because SE forced otherwise rather intelligent characters to behave like morons simply to make him work as a villain. He'd have been a lot more effective if his betrayal wasn't so obvious from the start - from the sudden appearance of Red Kyojin so far inland to his way too 'kind' attitude. He had 'twist villain' written all over him and it just got insufferable watching otherwise competent characters lose their intelligence to add any threat to Asahi's agenda. Because if Hien or the twins actually been /thinking/ the entire debacle with Tsuyu could have been avoided entirely.

    Half the fun of Emet for me was that the writer trusted our intelligence as players and never once diminished the main cast to make him 'work'. It's so refreshing and I really hope that they continue to give us more antagonists of his caliber in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Don't you just love antagonists that should be logically killed as soon as possible but you can't because the writers won't let you?
    Asahi was horrible, sure, though it would have looked very bad on Doma's part if they executed a diplomat right then and there. The attempt at forging peace between Doma and Garlemald was a genuine one - Asahi was simply a compromised element. I did find myself disappointed that he was so unhinged, though. Still, we got Maxima out of it all so hopefully something better will come out of him.
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    Best Final Fantasy villain so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    Honestly Asahi bothered me more because SE forced otherwise rather intelligent characters to behave like morons simply to make him work as a villain. He'd have been a lot more effective if his betrayal wasn't so obvious from the start - from the sudden appearance of Red Kyojin so far inland to his way too 'kind' attitude. He had 'twist villain' written all over him and it just got insufferable watching otherwise competent characters lose their intelligence to add any threat to Asahi's agenda. Because if Hien or the twins actually been /thinking/ the entire debacle with Tsuyu could have been avoided entirely.

    Half the fun of Emet for me was that the writer trusted our intelligence as players and never once diminished the main cast to make him 'work'. It's so refreshing and I really hope that they continue to give us more antagonists of his caliber in the future.
    Pretty much, yeah. It just felt so forced. When he turned evil I litteraly remember being like 'well yeah of course, whatever'. It wasn't interesting nor surprising. I actually thought SE was getting lazy with their villains lol

    But then ShB came out and oh dear was I wrong. I hope we see more of Emet-Selch, throught flashbacks or the Echo, because bringing him back would just ruin the whole emotional ending we already got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Asahi was horrible, sure, though it would have looked very bad on Doma's part if they executed a diplomat right then and there. The attempt at forging peace between Doma and Garlemald was a genuine one - Asahi was simply a compromised element. I did find myself disappointed that he was so unhinged, though. Still, we got Maxima out of it all so hopefully something better will come out of him.
    It wouldn't be hard to make it look like an accident. He willingly challenges those Rhino Beetle, all we gotta do is feed his body to one of the Beetles and the Empire wont be able to determine a proper cause of death. Their supposed ambassador for peace is promising a "reckoning" anyway so there's no reason let them play their game anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    It wouldn't be hard to make it look like an accident. He willingly challenges those Rhino Beetle, all we gotta do is feed his body to one of the Beetles and the Empire wont be able to determine a proper cause of death. Their supposed ambassador for peace is promising a "reckoning" anyway so there's no reason let them play their game anymore.
    The Empire itself was unaware of his deception, though. Varis wasn't pleased when he was given the news that Asahi's presence was but another Ascian scheme at play. Sure, the Domans could have orchestrated his demise and passed it off as an 'accident' but then they'd have no high ground to stand on in the future if someone played the same trick on them in the future. Their hands were tied. I'd also note that there was the additional complication of the prisoner exchange to deal with. If Asahi was slain right then and there, it very likely would not have gone through.
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    To the people wanting a minion, we already have one.


    It drops from the MSQ 80 dungeon, if the connection wasn't already clear enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayuhra View Post
    Best Final Fantasy villain so far.


    Yes! I totally agree!
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