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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    From an outside viewpoint, I actually really like healing DRKs now. They used to be my absolute least favorite as they seemed to take huge hits far too often and required a lot of babysitting. I'm not sure if this is just how the class was, or perhaps it required more skill to play properly, but my DF experiences made me strongly dislike DRK tanks.


    Since ShB, I've actually been quite happy with the DRKs I run across. I'm not sure what all has changed, but I'll take it. PLDs, which used to be #1, have dropped to my least favorite. :X
    I'll explain you what has changed:

    TBN was buffed from a 20% to a 25% shield.

    DRK lost AoE blind
    DRK lost his spamable AoE selfheal
    DRK lost mana regenration, wich means he can use TBN a bit less often now
    DRK lost his selfheal from Sole Survivor
    DRK lost 10% damage reduction from Dark Mind (wich doesn't matter most of the time since it's magic only)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    I'll explain you what has changed:

    TBN was buffed from a 20% to a 25% shield.

    DRK lost AoE blind
    DRK lost his spamable AoE selfheal
    DRK lost mana regenration, wich means he can use TBN a bit less often now
    DRK lost his selfheal from Sole Survivor
    DRK lost 10% damage reduction from Dark Mind (wich doesn't matter most of the time since it's magic only)
    We didnt lose some of these things so much as they got displaced by reworks due to TP and tank homogenization. We dont have the blind, per se, but we got arms legth with a slow (so less RNG in that regards). There are nice changes that happened that were good for DRK, but those changes were a matter of addressing tank role changes generally. Overall, yes, DRK does feel heavily peared down. TBN with 25% mitigation is amazing. Not gonna deny that. But if thats it really, well, It just doestn feel super worth it, especially since this change was a bigger benefit to other targets before us (we got what...5% increase, where another target got 15%). All they did with Dark Mind is split it into two CDs now, and make one an AoE. So its like having a second reprisal for magic specific damage (nice length admittedly). AoE combo is cool but SBs aoe management was much more fun and interesting. Doing it just right meant you were pushing out good damage and getting great mitigation. This is now just spam the 2 CD AoE combo, fill it with FoS between GCDs, and use Quietus when you can on 3 or more targets.

    It's just kinda...meh. There's nothing that makes it feel like it's own class anymore. Its a mish mash of War and PLD dumbed down to a very low skill ceiling. Im not saying it should be super hard to play DRK, but it doesnt feel like I ahve to do much thinking at all to do well with it. Nothing in its kit stands out as unique. Its all filler or reskins. It really is a killjoy for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melichoir View Post
    but we got arms legth with a slow (so less RNG in that regards)
    That's a role skill wich every tank has, so it doesn't matter for comparing tanks against each other.

    But when we dip into role skills we also lost Anticipation, Convalescence and Awarness.


    However, all what I wanted was to make some fun about the fact that Skivvy thinks SB DRK was squishier than ShB DRK >.>
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    Last edited by Tint; 08-28-2019 at 02:48 AM.