Could we get more healing gear that has pants?

[Iscah]

Someday I will get around to posting all the outfits I made for my male healer.

Yeah, but [for glamours] you only have the choice among the generic one-fits-all glamour gear.

You can get some good unique-looking outfits by combining a "glamour gear" shirt with healer-specific pants/gloves/shoes (or some other mix of specific and generic gear).

I wish they stopped making whm look like a nun...

I think this is a side-effect of trying to mimic the classic WHM gear with the hooded robe, while being restricted by the "piece by piece" nature of gear design in this game. Either they give you a hood you can never wear (eg. Lv50 gear) or it has to be detached from the coat so you equip it separately. Thus either the tight-necked 'nun' aplearance or the loose drape.

The fact they need to "switch off" visible hair for most hoods doesn't help with the nun look, either.

I think we need more circlets, personally....

If we keep recurring to that excuse then we would literally have no need for every new gear to have a design at all, just rehash ARR gear because you can always glamour it anyways.

New gear adds more designs and choices. You might not like most of those choices, but some you might, and so that adds new possible options each time.

You're not restricted to AF gear, or the latest variety of tome gear. Look at leveling gear, old endgame vendors, Centurio seals, Gold Saucer, PVP, GC hunt seals... look around. Try on combinations. There's a lot of potential and I don't think people realise how many sources there are for gear.

[Granyala]

Before making different gear, I'd like SE to give the robes proper physics so they don't stand out as if propped up with a wire or sth. making the character look pregnant.

A robe should be flowing not protruding.

[Allegor]

New gear adds more designs and choices. You might not like most of those choices, but some you might, and so that adds new possible options each time.

You're not restricted to AF gear, or the latest variety of tome gear. Look at leveling gear, old endgame vendors, Centurio seals, Gold Saucer, PVP, GC hunt seals... look around. Try on combinations. There's a lot of potential and I don't think people realise how many sources there are for gear.

You're right about having other options to look at from here and there, but my point is the "you have glamour" is a moot point when the context is asking about expanding on choices of attires, rather than always recurring to "a white robe", specially when it's clearly designed to favor one gender over the other. That's just lazy.

Also, just my opinion, AST looks better in black anyways, because of stars and tarot and all that.

[Laphael]

I'd like SE to give the robes proper physics so they don't stand out as if propped up with a wire or sth. making the character look pregnant.

A robe should be flowing not protruding.

Yeah, this so much. I´m a male; im not pregnant and i don´t have wide hips.

[Flay_wind]

You're right about having other options to look at from here and there, but my point is the "you have glamour" is a moot point when the context is asking about expanding on choices of attires, rather than always recurring to "a white robe", specially when it's clearly designed to favor one gender over the other. That's just lazy.

The thing is, WHM in particular and healers in general are usually heavily associated with priests, who traditionally wear robes. That's the class fantasy, so to speak. There are exceptions of couse, but if you do not want to wear a "dress" as a male, then WHM is probably just not for you aesthetically. And that's where glamours come in.

[bazzfreeman]

This is the reason all my casters are female.

Also, this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z29Rk8814w

[Allegor]

The thing is, WHM in particular and healers in general are usually heavily associated with priests, who traditionally wear robes. That's the class fantasy, so to speak. There are exceptions of couse, but if you do not want to wear a "dress" as a male, then WHM is probably just not for you aesthetically. And that's where glamours come in.

You can easily make a cleric/priest/bishop/etc robe without making it look like a nun - a specifically female title. The Christmas glamour from 2018, for example. Even the AF1 looks good, tho the low rez is very noticeable imo, and the AF3 being the best option for male WHM.

A few examples of simple, actually unisex robes;

Even Raya-O's outfit can be unisex if you take out/shorten the skirt.



This one isn't simple but badass af, SE plz

If I'm allowed to be blunt, I think they're intentionally trying to make WHM look kawaii, you don't really see this problem with either SCH or AST, and their themes are literally fairies and stars.

[Granyala]

I like the last pic :O

[Lacan]

Like, I have no problem with lots of white mage gear being "kawaii", I just mean after 4 sets of relic armor that amounts to dresses, could we get something different? Something more tunic like maybe?

[Iscah]

You're right about having other options to look at from here and there, but my point is the "you have glamour" is a moot point when the context is asking about expanding on choices of attires, rather than always recurring to "a white robe", specially when it's clearly designed to favor one gender over the other. That's just lazy.

Also, just my opinion, AST looks better in black anyways, because of stars and tarot and all that.

There are definitely outfits that aren't white robes - post #37 has a list of a good amount of them. And when we do get white robes, they are usually dyeable.

Personally I don't see the issue with each class having a theme after which most of the gear is designed. You can choose glamour or non-standard sets to go outside of it, but that doesn't mean the designers should be expected to stop following the theme entirely.

I do agree AST looks better in black - unfortunately most of my recommendations are robes again! The Battlemage's Robe from Brayflox's Longstop is a fairly good practical-looking one, or up the other end of the leveling scale, the Lv79 dungeon gear is an excellent black-with-yellow-highlights version of the Demon Robe from WoD. (Customise to your taste, of course - I don't like the skirt and sandals either.)

Though for my male Elezen I'm using the Boulevardier's Shirt combined with the sleeves from the Lv70 job gear, which co-ordinates remarkably well. (pic) No idea if that works well on Hrothgar though.

I have to admit, on your human character the capes look good, but somehow most of those on my male aura look like im heaving really wide hips.

Yeah, this so much. I´m a male; im not pregnant and i don´t have wide hips.

Um... male Au Ra do have wide hips. Or rather they have a narrow waist which means relatively wide hips.

They're definitely an unusual shape, and it makes it hard to find nice glamours for them. (I have an alt and he's definitely a challenge. Things do just fit oddly on them a lot of the time.)

If you're looking for a formal coat, I will recommend the shared model Plague Bringer's/Doctor's Coat which is a dungeon drop from Arboretum (normal) and Pharos Sirius (hard) for caster/healer, and the Lakeland Coat of Aiming from Holminster Switch. It's one of the few coats I've tried on my alt and thought it looked good on him.

The thing is, WHM in particular and healers in general are usually heavily associated with priests, who traditionally wear robes. That's the class fantasy, so to speak. There are exceptions of couse, but if you do not want to wear a "dress" as a male, then WHM is probably just not for you aesthetically. And that's where glamours come in.

Not so much priests as wizards, I think - well, WHM specifically has the cleric/priest theme, but mages in general wear robes. It's normal for the fantasy setting, and there's nothing inherently feminine about them except the modern association of them looking like what is now considered female clothing. It wasn't at the time.

You can easily make a cleric/priest/bishop/etc robe without making it look like a nun - a specifically female title. The Christmas glamour from 2018, for example. Even the AF1 looks good, tho the low rez is very noticeable imo, and the AF3 being the best option for male WHM.

A few examples of simple, actually unisex robes [...]

And now you've reminded me how much I want Raya-O's coat!

Though as I said earlier, the main thing that makes WHM relic gear look "like a nun" is the hood - take that away and I wouldn't associate them at all.