Thread: Let's Theorize a 5.1 Balance Patch.

Originally Posted by Kabooa

Well lets tear off the bandaid then.

Black Mage
1. Enhanced Sharpcast instead guarantees a critical hit of the new FIrestarter or initial hit of Thundercloud.
Adds more windows of movement vulnerability

2. Enochian is reduced to 10% from 15%
Overall 3% damage nerf.

Monk
1. Riddle of Fire reduced to 15% damage bonus.

2. Bootshine no longer automatically crits. (Sorry)

Ninja
1. Bunshin reduced Ninki cost to 40. Cooldown removed.

2. Ten Chi Jin is an alternative Ninjutsu cast that doesn't consume current Mudras. GCD. Damaging Ninjutsu cast this way deal 50% more damage. 45second cooldown, 3 charges.

3. Throw Dagger does not interrupt combos or mudra combinations. Combos from any Mudra for additional potency and faster recast.

Bard, Machinist, Dancer
All see an average pps boost of about 3%.

Machinist
1. Reassemble is a 45 second cooldown with 2 charges

Red Mage
1. Embolden is now 60 second cooldown, 2 charge maximum, 10 second duration, 8% damage bonus to all damage.

2. Manafication is now just +80/80 Mana.

Summoner
1. Energy Siphon instead ends Trances and grants Ruin 4 charges.

2. Egi Assaults are moved to the GCD. Potency is increased. Sourced from the Summoner instead of the Pet.

Samurai
1. Hagakure - Sen converts into Meditate stacks. Cooldown is now 60 seconds.

2. Tsubame Gaeshi - Only usable after Iaijutsu. Grants 1 meditate. 30 second cooldown. 300 potency. Removed from the GCD.

3. Shoha - Scaling changed to 100/150/250/400/600

4. Guren Senei - Cooldown reduced to 60 seconds.

On the RDM part, the manification change would be hell, it’d make a clean opener, but using it throughout the fight would be a pure mana bleed and increasingly difficult to manage to get the procs espically when the combo alone already pushes 1 of ur mana bars past 20 instantly.

I’ve noticed a lot of people seem to believe manification is the reason RDMs can’t have a smooth opener like other jobs, where it realistically isn’t. The RNG nature of the job is what overall makes things go wonky, it’s not a bad thing, but simply in itself RNG will have moments of changing things. RDM doesn’t have anything consistent or muscle memory wise which is why it ends up misaligning and more at times, because there’s no concrete amount of time between each burst.

And that embolden change would prolly make for the strongest support ability in the game, we would have to be nerfed harder then current ninja to have something that strong.

20seconds of pure burst. Which what averages at a 30 sec CD, embolden is already a 800 rdps cooldown, only 200 odd dps beneath trick attacks ability. You would litterally be making RDM the top RDPS choice in the game.

MCH

Flamethrower - Build 5 Heat very 2s or 25 Heat over it's full duration.
Wildfire - Increase potency to 250. At 6 Weaponskills that potency will be 1500.
Barrel Stabilizer - Buffs dmg dealt by 5-10% for 15s.

DNC

Curing Waltz - Effect radius increased to 6yalms
Flourish - All Flourished actions will yield Feathers.
Saber Dance - Procs Feather Dance III
Improvisation - Healing buff is separate and lasts the full 15s duration even when Improvisation ends by moving.

My take on SMN :

Ruins have a fixed potency, no DoT scaling.
Get rid of Energy Drain / Siphon and make Fester / Painflare simple oGCDs with charges so that we don't have to weave 6 oGCDs per minute there (sharing the same recast timer)
Ruin 4 can stack up to 5. Reintroduce the radom 15% chance of getting Ruin 4 by pet auto attack.
Devotion is cast from the player, not the pet. Can be cast during Phenix / Bahamut.
33 seconds duration on DoTs.
Delete Titan and make Earthen Armour an oGCD with a long cooldown like Manawall. The idea here is that most DPS don't trade DPS for self heal/sustain (Bloodbath, Second Wind, Manawall), while ours has to line up perfectly in the grand scheme of things to be used correctly, and costs us a charge of Ruin 4.
Separate DWT and FBT recast timers, so that DWT can be used for movement / weaving and not just a Triple Cast.

Summoner

Tri-Disaster :
* DoT duration increased to 33s

Energy Drain/Siphon :
* ED is upgraded to Energy Siphon and deals 100pot AoE with 40% pot reduction for the rest.

Ruin III :
+ Potency increased to 220 while both DoTs are up.
* DoT bonus potency is reduced (something like : 180pot for no DoT, 200 for 1, 220 for both).
* Has 30% chance of giving a Ruin IV stack (increased to 100% while in DWT), you can hold 8 stacks of Ruin IV.

Ruin II/IV :
* no longer need both DoT to deal their max damage.

Devotion :
+ Skill removed for Aetherpact, same skill but launched by the caster instead.
* Damage bonus reduced to 4% but duration is extended to 20s (to match other raid buffs).

EAs :
- Have only 1 stack instead of 2.
- Cooldown increased to 1min.
- They no longer generate Ruin IV stacks.
+ Increased potency.

Bahamut/Phoenix :
* Stand still.
* Have a shorter "summon time", so they can react (almost) instantly when you use a spell.

Originally Posted by AvenoMatt

Red Mage
Increase the damage buff duration from Manafication from 10s to 15s or 20s. At the current moment when you use manafiction for the first few seconds of the buff you are doing your melee combo not gaining any of the benefit from the buff.

The enchanted melee combo is actually magic damage, and does in fact still benefit from the Manafication buff. In Red Mage's kit, the only things that count as physical damage are your off-gcd attacks and the unenchanted combo.

Originally Posted by Drayos

On the RDM part, the manification change would be hell, it’d make a clean opener, but using it throughout the fight would be a pure mana bleed and increasingly difficult to manage to get the procs espically when the combo alone already pushes 1 of ur mana bars past 20 instantly.

I’ve noticed a lot of people seem to believe manification is the reason RDMs can’t have a smooth opener like other jobs, where it realistically isn’t. The RNG nature of the job is what overall makes things go wonky, it’s not a bad thing, but simply in itself RNG will have moments of changing things. RDM doesn’t have anything consistent or muscle memory wise which is why it ends up misaligning and more at times, because there’s no concrete amount of time between each burst.

And that embolden change would prolly make for the strongest support ability in the game, we would have to be nerfed harder then current ninja to have something that strong.

20seconds of pure burst. Which what averages at a 30 sec CD, embolden is already a 800 rdps cooldown, only 200 odd dps beneath trick attacks ability. You would litterally be making RDM the top RDPS choice in the game.

Wayfinder has established that currently Red Mage needs close to a 1,000 dps gain to get to a comparable point to where it stood in Alphascape. This is about what the Embolden change would do, but more importantly, it removes the exclusionary nature of Red Mage + any other caster.

While the general rule is 'never overcap on mana', we can solve this by extending any sort of capacity gauge in game to 1.8-2x the amount needed to perform an ability. This effectively grants every system a similar 'charge' system to current Polyglot / tank gauges.