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    You should pair up cds with same cooldowns on big pulls. Rampart and Camouflage both are 90s. Nebula and Arm's Length are both 2mins. Throw in Aurora and Heart of Stone whenever.

    Don't wait til critical hp to pop Superbolide if it comes to that. The longer you wait, the higher chance you have of getting a benediction and wasting it

    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    If you're physically unable to heal a tank without Benediction/Lustrate/etc., git gud.
    its called being efficient with our kit. Using ogcd heals and using gcds for damage IS "gittin gud"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlachtga View Post
    You should pair up cds with same cooldowns on big pulls. Rampart and Camouflage both are 90s.
    You really shouldn't. If you use them at the same time you run out of CDs very quickly. Also you don't need to. You can use Rampart and Nebula alone just fine. HoS with the short cooldown is usually a good CD to throw in between the bigger ones. Aurora should be on CD anyway when you are standing in the huddle and taking constant dmg. Usually I start with Nebula on a big pull, when Nebula runs out I pop arm's length and heart of stone together until HoS runs out. Afterwards I pop Rampart, then Camouflage. If I still need more because DPS is really low or something like that, HoS is ready again.

    If you have a WHM with holy-spam you can even start with HoS while the mobs are on stun anyway, then Nebula (10s) followed by Rampart (20s) and a second HoS [now ready again] for more CD-efficiency. Throw in arm's length when the holy-stuns wears off.

    Don't wait til critical hp to pop Superbolide if it comes to that. The longer you wait, the higher chance you have of getting a benediction and wasting it
    And if you use it to early you waste a lot of HP and safty-time. It depends. Usually I don't plan to use it anyway, because most of the time you don't need it [you may use it tactically, but in this case you can announce it before the pull] so it's more or less a safety-tool if my hp hits critical amount. And then it's better to risk wasting a benediction than to die to a PUG healer dreaming or netflixing or whatever.
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    Last edited by Pepsi_Plunge; 08-26-2019 at 08:48 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    You really shouldn't. If you use them at the same time you run out of CDs very quickly.
    Running out of cds isn't an issue unless its still the first pull (in which case you should adjust because your group isn't great)

    Most dungeons have at best two mass pulls before each boss. The ones that don't will have small pulls instead, with which your fluff cds will suffice.

    Also you don't need to.
    You technically don't need to pop any cds, but we're trying to help out the healers as much as possible here.

    You can use Rampart and Nebula alone just fine.
    That's going to be heavily dependant on how good your group is, because Rampart alone in a mass pull is nowhere near enough, unless you're being babysitted.

    You can make a case for the 30% alone, if the group dps is good. I'd still rather just throw up Arm's Length anyway.

    And if you use it to early you waste a lot of HP and safty-time.
    You get the 8s of invuln regardless. I'd rather burn 30k hp and have the pull succeed than min-max my Superbolide usage (which it shouldn't really come down to in the first place anyway)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlachtga View Post
    Running out of cds isn't an issue unless its still the first pull (in which case you should adjust because your group isn't great)

    Most dungeons have at best two mass pulls before each boss. The ones that don't will have small pulls instead, with which your fluff cds will suffice.
    It depends on the dungeon and the group. Sure, when you go in an older Dungeon with overgeared people you can burn your CDs all you like (but you don't need to anyway). But with undergeared people or in Expert where most ppl are still near minimum item levels, you will need your CDs as DPS won't burn the mobs down that fast. Especially in that first big pull on Akadaemia.

    Now, getting a bad or undergeared Healer is an whole other thing. But then you would probably stop doing big pulls anyway.

    You technically don't need to pop any cds, but we're trying to help out the healers as much as possible here.
    Yes. And helping your healer is best by reducing the incoming dmg constantly over the whole pull then beeing nearly invincible at the beginning and running out of CDs. Of course, if you know you don't need your CDs later or if you need to cover some time (for example the healer just died and is getting resurrected by the SMN) you can pop them indeed together, but I wouldn't give that advice as a general rule. Adjusting to the circumstances is one thing, but wasting CDs is another.

    That's going to be heavily dependant on how good your group is, because Rampart alone in a mass pull is nowhere near enough, unless you're being babysitted.
    That's why I start with Nebula. Until I reach Rampart there is also arm's length and the first mobs should be dead at this point so DMG will be lower. Always start with your strongest CD.

    You get the 8s of invuln regardless. I'd rather burn 30k hp and have the pull succeed than min-max my Superbolide usage (which it shouldn't really come down to in the first place anyway)
    It's simple math as the time it takes to actually burn my hp down by the mobs counts too. If I just pop my Superbolide we will get 8 seconds. If I wait 4 seconds longer before I pop it the party actually gain 12 seconds. The longer I wait, the longer I survive, more mobs may die as the healer can longer DPS and if the healing cast is coming in this 4 seconds, I may not even need SB at all.


    Quote Originally Posted by KanameYuuki View Post
    Don't forget to use Heart of Light too, not just for party damage, it is yet another self CD.
    Well, HoL only reduces magic damage so unless the mobs are attacking you with magic spells it doesn't do anything for you in big pulls. It's better to use this [and Reprisal] for the bosses.
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    Last edited by Pepsi_Plunge; 08-27-2019 at 01:25 AM.
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