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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Ravana
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    Conjurer Lv 96
    As someone who plays SCH with Sheilds, and have a compulsory healing disorder that makes me heal before the tank hits half HP, it is pretty annoying when they pop Superbolide when they are at full HP, and have a crit shield on them
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    Rosa Frandlia
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    As someone who plays SCH with Sheilds, and have a compulsory healing disorder that makes me heal before the tank hits half HP, it is pretty annoying when they pop Superbolide when they are at full HP, and have a crit shield on them
    I assume that is after excog has gone off? Otherwise it can be a wasted excog if you have that on the tank. I've had a few clemency happy paladins waste my excog's as is. I also watch for it if my co-healer is a sch to see if it is on the main tank.

    For gun breakers, worst is them using their superbolide right after I've given them a benediction. 3 minutes before another one available. Using it with excog on the tank isn't nearly as scary with its auto trigger at 50% HP.
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    Evanoel Crownguard
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 74
    Pop Superbolide after all the healer's instant heals and ogcd heals are used. I had GNB in Bardam's Mettle last night who used it after I gave her Essential Dignity + Noct Aspected Benefic. I was like... WHY!? lol

    Also, use your Aurora and Arm's Length as defensive cooldowns, just like everyone has said, Arm's Length gives 20% Slow debuff to attacking enemies so it helps reduce damage taken a bit.

    Don't forget Heart of Stone, and Heart of Light when facing a boss with unavoidable raid damage.

    Oh also, when you're tanking 2 or 3 packs, stun the mob who you think gives the most damage, it helps a LOT. Interrupt their AoE if you can.
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    Last edited by Evanoel; 08-27-2019 at 01:39 PM.

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    Yu Sakurakoji
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    My first experience healing GNB was not so... good. It might be because he pop Superbolide suddenly because he was undergeared and his hp drops like fly and he doesn't know how to use any cooldown. Needless to say, it was a nightmare try to heal him - and that gave an impression that GNB was a pain in the ass.

    My run last night at expert with GNB was so smooth I hardly recognize it as the same job.
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    Saefinn's Avatar
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    Balmung
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ksuyen View Post
    My first experience healing GNB was not so... good. It might be because he pop Superbolide suddenly because he was undergeared and his hp drops like fly and he doesn't know how to use any cooldown. Needless to say, it was a nightmare try to heal him - and that gave an impression that GNB was a pain in the ass.

    My run last night at expert with GNB was so smooth I hardly recognize it as the same job.

    I think GNB suffers from the same problem DRK did on release, a lot of new and inexperienced tanks or people who normally DPS but not tank trying out the new cool looking job and maybe being ill prepared for it. I remember healing DRK's in the day who were super squishy and DRK having bad rep.

    I am levelling GNB at the moment and I've found it adequate with other tanks, having played all tanks before. I don't find it squishy playing.
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 100
    Superbolide is a terrible ability but it is not your fault
    I understand wanting to use immunity during a massive pull but seeing HP go to 1 is always a shock...
    better paired with a WHM

    Use Heart of Stone on cooldown (every 25 sec, that's amazing) and Aurora (once per minute) as they come pretty often
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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    Now Loading
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    Zalera
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I've no issues with healing GNB. I find them very sturdy. I've also been guilty of accidentally pressing Superbolide a few times. A macro would be nice, but I generally reserve a cooldown in case Superbolide pops without warning because I've been on both sides. It's nothing to panic over; I just deal and move on.

    The only Tank button I'm not too pleased with is Living Dead, especially when a DRK uses it at 25% HP or so. I'm like "why?" Now I have to burn all my resources to get you to not be dead in 10 secs. But those instances are few and far between.
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    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RegularJoe View Post
    I've no issues with healing GNB. I find them very sturdy. I've also been guilty of accidentally pressing Superbolide a few times. A macro would be nice, but I generally reserve a cooldown in case Superbolide pops without warning because I've been on both sides. It's nothing to panic over; I just deal and move on.

    The only Tank button I'm not too pleased with is Living Dead, especially when a DRK uses it at 25% HP or so. I'm like "why?" Now I have to burn all my resources to get you to not be dead in 10 secs. But those instances are few and far between.
    If you don't let the DRK hit 0 HP, then they won't enter Walking Dead and won't die if you don't heal them to full.
    If they do hit 0 HP... then Living Dead was necessary, and at the very least gave them an additional 10s.

    I'm more hesitant to Use Superbolide than Living Dead now.
    I was aware of the issue where you're reduced to 1 HP BEFORE you become invulnerable, but it actually happened to me 2 days ago.
    At about 10% HP, I hit Superbolide, I see my HP equal 1 for a fraction of a second, and then I died instantly.
    It's basically russian roulette to me now, will I become invulnerable or self destruct?
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I reserve superbolide for boss tank busters that cannot be survived otherwise.
    - either my OT is doing something that caused me to be unable to take the hit, like not sharong fae light, or I goofed earlier and got a debuff on me or used too many cooldowns and this is what I have left...

    On big trash pulls I cycle between my AoE and single target rotations because of the self heal and shield in step 2 of the single target. It’s also a good way to speed down one target in a stack which will also relieve healer pressure.
    - don’t over or under use your mitigation skills. The single target rotation and your short cooldown is good enough for most “white damage” allowing you to always have bigger mitigation on hand for tank busters. Pop your tank buster as close to the end of a tank buster cast as possible so it doesn’t wear off until some tome after - smoothing out the process of healers getting you back up.

    Don’t outrun your healer on chain pulling trash. I always zoom back a bit and make sure I can still see the healer behind me and know I haven’t blocked them off with a corner or a ramp/ledge.

    You’ll notice my 80s include a tank, a healer, and 2 DPS. One of the best things you can do for your healers is to have a healer at a level of gear to where it can run most of the same content as your tank... which is also true in reverse...
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    Aylaine Gray
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    Midgardsormr
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    White Mage Lv 80
    A good GNB will use their CD's properly and that will make them easy to heal from my experience. Not WAR/DRK easy, but easy enough. If I am being honest though, about 50% of my rough runs through expert have been with GNB tanks. I can't place why, as I do not play the class but during these runs they seem to take astronomical amounts of damage in comparison to the other 3 tanks. Then I'll find another GNB and it will be just fine.
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