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    Player
    aishwab's Avatar
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    Panz Brewhammer
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80

    Question for healers about GNB

    Hello Everyone, I am starting to get more into tanking and really enjoying the GNB. While looking around for tips and advice I've noticed several threads where healers state that they do not like healing GNB. I imagine that this is because of superbolide or new players but I wanted to make sure so that I don't end up making your jobs miserable.

    Apart from the obvious things like managing cooldowns and such is there any advice you would give to an aspiring meat shield to help make your lives easier?
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Do not pop Bolide after you've received critical damage, but damage you have survived. The only thing it is going to do there is eat healer cooldowns. Use it as a preventative tool only, not a reactive one.

    Aside from that, the only other advice I could offer applies to all tanks. Know the limits of your gear, maybe pull smaller while your CDs are CDing, etc.
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    Qina Jumaloth
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Best thing you can do is ask your healer(s) when they want you to Superbolide. Some healers don't want it ever. Some will want it for specific mechanics. Make a macro that asks in party chat and press it when you first enter an instance. If you hear nothing back assume that they don't want you using it.

    Apart from that just keep trying to use CDs effectively and maximize your offensive performance.
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    Last edited by Jaelommiss; 08-26-2019 at 02:03 PM.

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    Eijala Wyman
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    Louisoix
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    GNB is about just as easy to heal as the others; main combo offers the same survivability as WAR and DRK, and defensive CDs across all tanks are more or less the same.

    Just don't use Superbolide as a panic button, because it's easy to make your healers waste precious CDs. If you want to use it, make sure your healer(s) is/are aware so nobody wastes their CDs.

    As long as you don't panic superbolide, you can tank as GNB without worries c:
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Regarding Superbolide: I had a GNB in an expert who had a macro which said "Superbolide coming up soon!" in party chat which was my cue to stop healing him as I knew he would use it when he reached critically low HP so I was able to wait that out and heal him back up afterwards.
    Nothing worse than a GNB using Superbolide as a panic button the millisecond after my Bene hit ... so don't play the "let's see who panics first" game, give your healer a heads up when it's your next course of action and you're good.

    Otherwise just the usual cd using. I honestly didn't notice GNB being harder to heal than the others. I found them to be quite pleasent to heal. My only gripe was when they decided to use Superbolide randomly but those were few.
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    Dia Beetus
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Make sure you add arms length to your cooldown rotation and pop heart of stone as often as it allows.

    Arms length adds a slow debuff to mobs that hit you and this can help a weaker buff like camouflage.
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    Character
    Danielle Osmond
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Healing GNB isn't so bad. If they do their Camo,Rampart,Nebula/Heart of Stone combo is easier to manage for a healer. HoS pretty much somewhat busted utility for 7secs every 25sec on CD. Aurora is weird, but it's ok for a regen. Arm's Length is really good for big pulls for the 20sec slow, it'll save you as a tank for a while. Superbolide though, unless you let your healer know you going to pop it helps. Somewhat noticed when GNBs pull adds and not stun or interrupt one of the mobs that does a dmg buff on themselves. Having 2 mobs that does it via the twinning, you asking for it. I doubt the healer can save you at that point with a big pull of adds still on you.
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    People claim to not like healing GNB because of Superbolide and they pretend that every GNB spams it as soon as it's available. Just like how they insist that every PLD uses Clemency as much as physically possible in order to waste their heals.

    Maybe healers shouldn't let their tanks be at 10% while they're still DPSing, and maybe they wouldn't use Superbolide so much. Also: in like 90% of content, who cares if they waste an oGCD because the tank used Superbolide right after. Server ticks and ping are a thing, and as every Good Player has ever said to me, "No one died, so who cares."

    If you're physically unable to heal a tank without Benediction/Lustrate/etc., git gud.
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    Tlachtga Ereshkigal
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    You should pair up cds with same cooldowns on big pulls. Rampart and Camouflage both are 90s. Nebula and Arm's Length are both 2mins. Throw in Aurora and Heart of Stone whenever.

    Don't wait til critical hp to pop Superbolide if it comes to that. The longer you wait, the higher chance you have of getting a benediction and wasting it

    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    If you're physically unable to heal a tank without Benediction/Lustrate/etc., git gud.
    its called being efficient with our kit. Using ogcd heals and using gcds for damage IS "gittin gud"
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    Pepsi Plunge
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tlachtga View Post
    You should pair up cds with same cooldowns on big pulls. Rampart and Camouflage both are 90s.
    You really shouldn't. If you use them at the same time you run out of CDs very quickly. Also you don't need to. You can use Rampart and Nebula alone just fine. HoS with the short cooldown is usually a good CD to throw in between the bigger ones. Aurora should be on CD anyway when you are standing in the huddle and taking constant dmg. Usually I start with Nebula on a big pull, when Nebula runs out I pop arm's length and heart of stone together until HoS runs out. Afterwards I pop Rampart, then Camouflage. If I still need more because DPS is really low or something like that, HoS is ready again.

    If you have a WHM with holy-spam you can even start with HoS while the mobs are on stun anyway, then Nebula (10s) followed by Rampart (20s) and a second HoS [now ready again] for more CD-efficiency. Throw in arm's length when the holy-stuns wears off.

    Don't wait til critical hp to pop Superbolide if it comes to that. The longer you wait, the higher chance you have of getting a benediction and wasting it
    And if you use it to early you waste a lot of HP and safty-time. It depends. Usually I don't plan to use it anyway, because most of the time you don't need it [you may use it tactically, but in this case you can announce it before the pull] so it's more or less a safety-tool if my hp hits critical amount. And then it's better to risk wasting a benediction than to die to a PUG healer dreaming or netflixing or whatever.
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    Last edited by Pepsi_Plunge; 08-26-2019 at 08:48 PM.
    Pepsis Eorzea-Tagebuch:
    https://de.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/22850747/blog/


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