What's up with the wreckless big pulls lately?

[HumanNinjaToo]

Since I've been playing tank, my normal 'speed' is about 2-3 groups of mobs at a time, usually two. In DF, I don't know the healer, they don't know me. I'd rather get through the dungeon in 10-15 minutes with no wipes (due to a lack of communication about pulling), as opposed to going for that 9 minute full-sprint run and possibly wiping. Trying to go too fast, IMO, usually results in people making mistakes and CD's not having time to reset. But this is just my observations as a lowly sprout tank.

[alvisdotexe]

They're just faster, I do them whenever possible and if the current state of my run allows for it. Factors like the team's gear and skill come to mind, as well as the dungeon in question.
Fighting trash is not super engaging for me, I press my 1-3 AoE GCDs and whatever oGCDs I have. I would rather be hitting more enemies with each use of those AoE abilities; it's more satisfying and does more DPS in total.

50/60/70 roulette is full of dungeons that become trivial when you are wearing good gear for the expansion in question. Since 99% of the time players will outgear it either by virtue of being much higher leveled or wearing poetics gear, they're the biggest candidate for running to the wall. Expert roulette is fine too, especially now when the dungeon pool is shallow and people are prepared. Leveling roulette is really the only roulette where I would consider it more carefully, but if there is nobody new to the duty I'm quick to go for the wall pull as well.
I tend to take more care in ShB dungeons, since people often spam them to level 70-80 and may not have the best gear, but from my experience the big pulls aren't too bad. They're possible in every single dungeon, Aurum Vale might be the only exception. I default to them unless the healer objects or I can see problems arise due to new or undergeared teammates.

[Marc-Vigar]

It seems over the past few weeks every dungeon I am doing either 50/60/70 or leveling roulette the tanks have this general "I want to big pull everything and sprint through this content as fast as I can" mentality, without waiting for the healer to even be in line of sight? I mean it's one thing if you want to big pull - I can handle that - but if your 50 yalms ahead of me and I can't use Sprint to keep up because it's on this stupid 60 second cooldown, your gonna die and their isn't anything I can do about it. By the time I catch up to you I'm going to have to rapid cast the heck out of heals and your probably going to be getting hit so hard no matter how rapidly I cast crap your gonna die.

Can we just play with consideration that not everyone has found a way to hack the cooldown timer for Sprint yet?

My question is, if the tank is running why are you not running along him?

[Gneo]

Not everybody feels like sprinting through dungeons.

[Edax]

What's up with the wreckless big pulls lately?

-shrugs- The big pulls I've been doing seem to be wreaking just fine.

[Rasikko]

In the last lv80 dungeon in the DF list.. tanks keep trying that Ronald McDonald pull that goes straight to wall. If me and the tank are the only ones AOEing, we gonna wipe and Nelson is gonna spawn saying HA HA! Healer cant help there. Every iteration of Jaws is in that pull, plus a few dozen thingambobs.

[Rathael]

Because wall pulls are the standard for synced (and therefore overgeared) tanks, it has become a standard etiquette that tanks feel obliged to wall pull all the time.

When the tank is under, or even sometimes average, geared for the dungeon, wall pulls are not always appropriate... yet tanks feel pressure to do so because it is the norm. Many tanks also do not understand the nuances of wall pulls yet attempt it anyway.

Unfortunately as healer it often feels like the tank is demanding of you to keep up with the wall pulls. I'd bet in-fact 90% of the time the tank feels pressured by the DPS to make wall pulls.

When I play DPS i do not care. pull 3 or 30, I will be doing the same AoE rotation anyway. It saves more time to not die than do twice the AoE DPS for a few seconds before a wipe.