Primal drop system, still no changes?!

[Lux_Rayna]

I still dont get the QQ over the Ifrit Weapons. I still say its ppl crying that their epeen will always be a couple inches shorter than someone else's just because they dont have them. Go doublemeld a weapon and be happy. That more or less rivals Ifrit weapons, even beats them in some cases.

And before you say "its not about epeen im a completionist," last time I checked 100% completion is supposed to be tedious and time-consuming. If you hate being a completionist, but are compelled to continue your practices, rest assured you have my sympathy. SE can't help you though. You should probably see a shrink, jus sayin.

[Vire]

Yes lets not even bother doing the only content that is in the game right now because you can double meld weapons and it is tedious. You get it now? Also double melded weapons are not even close to the Ifrit weapons unless your a blm.

[Lux_Rayna]

Yes lets not even bother doing the only content that is in the game right now because you can double meld weapons and it is tedious. You get it now? Also double melded weapons are not even close to the Ifrit weapons unless your a blm.

I'd have to see a parse on this or im calling BS. And I can say that because Ifrit Weapons aren't even *that* much stronger than non-melded normal weapons. So really now, I'm sure a double meld TIV would come really close. Especially if that weapon was HQ. Heck there are even non-melded tradeable weapons that are really close to Ifrit weapons now. In other words, they don't make or break your dmg. That is a fact.

And there is plenty of content besides Ifrit. Again, I'll reiterate, the only reason to QQ over this is over epeen or completionism. And again, I'll reiterate, 100% completion is *supposed* to be tedious, so complaining over said tedium is rather ironic unless you can't help it. And again, I'll reiterate, if you are a completionist against your will you should probably see a shrink.

I'm being cheeky but there is no reason that you *have* to have these Ifrit weapons; therefore, there is no reason SE should increase the drop rate or make them easier to obtain. The only reason anyone feels the need to have them is one of the two I just mentioned: epeen or completionism. There are tons more viable options outside of Ifrit that come very close to Ifrit weapons. I know that much.

[Vire]

The most important stat on your weapon if you are a psychical damage dealer is the weapon damage. No amount of str or attack power can make up for this because those stats soft cap depending on the weapon damage go read the str/pie testing thread in the dragoon forms if you want the math behind it so no what you just said isn't a fact.

So in a game where the most important metric right now is the speed you kill things getting the most damage out of your job is just a epeen contest got it.

[Tigercub]

I still dont get the QQ over the Ifrit Weapons. I still say its ppl crying that their epeen will always be a couple inches shorter than someone else's just because they dont have them. Go doublemeld a weapon and be happy. That more or less rivals Ifrit weapons, even beats them in some cases.

And before you say "its not about epeen im a completionist," last time I checked 100% completion is supposed to be tedious and time-consuming. If you hate being a completionist, but are compelled to continue your practices, rest assured you have my sympathy. SE can't help you though. You should probably see a shrink, jus sayin.

It doesn't have to be easy, it just has to be something we can work towards and feel like we're making progress, as opposed to what we have now where statistical outliers might spend hundreds of hours and never get what they're looking for, while others get everything they need in a few fights. Simply put it is not a system which is fair or equal to everyone in terms of time and effort invested. We all pay the same amount, why should we not expect equal returns for our time?

I've done the Ifrit fight maybe 20~25 times and come out with nothing but Dark Matter and a lot of repair bills. How do I know the next 25 fights won't be the same? Or the 25 after that? I've spent a lot of hours and gil on something and come out with zero. "Tedious and time consuming" would imply that I would have at least made some progress towards a distant goal. I have not.

Easy is not what I'm looking for. Consistency is.
And double melded weapons aren't equal in most cases.

[Rogue]

I'm being cheeky but there is no reason that you *have* to have these Ifrit weapons; therefore, there is no reason SE should increase the drop rate or make them easier to obtain. The only reason anyone feels the need to have them is one of the two I just mentioned: epeen or completionism. There are tons more viable options outside of Ifrit that come very close to Ifrit weapons. I know that much.

ive got a good reason, people stoping playing because they cant be bothered to keep doing the same thing over and over in vien.

[ArkNova]

Don't worry your weapon drop will come...for a job you don't use~

I have 1 level 50 class and 4 ifrit weapons those 4 are for my lowest classes

[Kinseykinz]

I still dont get the QQ over the Ifrit Weapons.

When you have the achievement for beating him...and have killed him for 100+ times to either never get a drop and/or not get the item you need yet watch your party members get duplicates of it every 3 fights, come back and tell us how it's fair or people are crazy. For now, just know, *if* our complaining can get changes for the better, you will also benefit from them.

[Skies]

They said they couldn't cause everyone gets their own chest and its not shared which why it goes directly to your items list.

Hrm... Actually, this is interesting. If that IS the case, and in that case it's something deeply ingrained in the current game structure, do you think they'd be willing to change that (each one gets their own chest but it's possible to throw it into the loot list) in 2.0 or do they believe that is a good design choice?

[Kinseykinz]

They said they couldn't cause everyone gets their own chest and its not shared which why it goes directly to your items list.

So simple solution, everyone needs tapers/keystones to get into fight. Then they can code so the loot is passable without worrying about who 'qualifies' for items. They were able to add nuts/totems as drops, they could add this if they wanted to. (And I'd accept 'We can only do this in 2.0') The bigger gripe I have is if SE keeps the system we have now for EVERY primal, it's gonna get super annoying pretty quick. Right now, we're talking about 2 different primals (soon to be 3)...one day it could be up to 12 primals with this horrible drop system...