Primal drop system, still no changes?!

[AlaulaTheGreat]

You know, I wouldn't QQ over Ifrit fight if I at least got a (appropriate) consolation prize. Like maybe 250 company seals (350 is full company party) instead of dark matter. But Yes, I really would hope that SE would just answer us over why the primal loot drops straight to inventory instead of the horrible personal loot pools.

[Wevlum]

You know, I wouldn't QQ over Ifrit fight if I at least got a (appropriate) consolation prize. Like maybe 250 company seals (350 is full company party) instead of dark matter. But Yes, I really would hope that SE would just answer us over why the primal loot drops straight to inventory instead of the horrible personal loot pools.

Because servers...or something. They literally cannot change parsimony so that the mp reduction is taken off before casting it rather than after apparently so nothing surprises me by this point. They could show us a room full of linked SNESs and tell us it's the servers and I'd believe them.

[Majidah]

They could show us a room full of linked SNESs and tell us it's the servers and I'd believe them.

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[Elexia]

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Shame that BS add-on for SFC was more stable.

[stanleyyoung]

fair idea for primal drops. allow all players to get either a kup nut or totem 100% drop for a win, and make it so its untradeable & cant be transfered between peoples loot. then have it were u need say 15 kupo nuts or totems for each weapon for the npc.(personally 20 is too many and 10 is to little, 15 allows SE to keep ppl playing but allowing ppl to obtain thier goal over a fair amount of time without them gettin dragged along like we are now with these crappy drop rates.) if you have all weapons 7/7 from the primals and still have kupo nuts or totem u should be able to trade them to a npc for seals, say for example 1 nut/totem=250 seals, also if u get a weapon drop and want a different weapon you should be able to trade for one you want to the npc. then keep the current drop rate for the weapons but allow ppl to pass them to someone else who needs instead of having ppl get a weapon they already got go to waste or allow ppl to trade mutliple weapons in for seals.

[Corrderio]

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This is something people have been pitching around on BG for awhile and I agree with it. To me the problem isn't how long it takes for the stuff, but rather how it's pure luck based and you have no control over it. I'd kill to see Primals/Raides/whatever run on a token system that rewards you based on your performance in a fight, not you luck.

[Jinko]

fair idea for primal drops. allow all players to get either a kup nut or totem 100% drop for a win, and make it so its untradeable & cant be transfered between peoples loot. then have it were u need say 15 kupo nuts or totems for each weapon for the npc.(personally 20 is too many and 10 is to little, 15 allows SE to keep ppl playing but allowing ppl to obtain thier goal over a fair amount of time without them gettin dragged along like we are now with these crappy drop rates.) if you have all weapons 7/7 from the primals and still have kupo nuts or totem u should be able to trade them to a npc for seals, say for example 1 nut/totem=250 seals, also if u get a weapon drop and want a different weapon you should be able to trade for one you want to the npc.

Well yea we have been saying this for months now.

I won't be surprised if in 1.22 Garuda's weapon will cost 20 tokens, and is probably why they are lowering Moogle to 10.

then keep the current drop rate for the weapons but allow ppl to pass them to someone else who needs instead of having ppl get a weapon they already got go to waste or allow ppl to trade mutliple weapons in for seals.

I don't agree with being able to pass the items as well as the 100% tokens, if they make the tokens drop 100% they need to remove the weapons completely from the loot list and only have them obtainable from the NPC.

Can't have it both ways.

[SuicideJoker]

it's bad if u see ppl ur doing it with gets multiple drops and u get a plant and dm.

[Atoli]

I really would hope that SE would just answer us over why the primal loot drops straight to inventory instead of the horrible personal loot pools.

Because they are afraid player's will be pressured to give something they got dropped to another player in the party.
I don't remember WHERE it was said, but that's basically SE's explanation.
I've never seen people coming out of Darkhold sobbing because they got cybermobbed into giving up a weapon which dropped into their lootpool, but Primae seem to bring out the dark sides of people, at least in the dev team's mind

I really hope they reconsider this and allow players to give drops to other players in the group.
I lost track on how many times I did Ifrit already just so a friend of mine could finally get a bow.
During all this time, quite a few bows got dropped, many of them to people who already HAD IT.
They couldn't pass it to her, the run ended with BOTH getting nothing.
This is so incredibly stupid, I don't even know what to say about it.

Also, nuts and totems.
They should be a reward for people who do this fight often but still have no luck, because pecentages are a bitch.
How come the droprate for these is JUST AS BAD as the one for weapons?
I'd be fine with having to turn in 30 or 40 of these for one weapon, if I got one for each fight I won.
But just by being unlucky, I get 2 nuts in 30+ fights; that's just not fair.