Primal drop system, still no changes?!

[Franklin4337]

I don't understand why people are moaning about the drop rate I have had enough ifrit wins to get my Leatherworker from 40 to 48 and still don't have all the weapons.
They would be meaningless if they were easy to get but I do agree in lowering the kupo nuts to 10 as the fight is a million years longer than ifrit (beat ifrit in 6 mins) (beat moogle in 35mins lol)

[inrainbows]

Stupid decision and amateur handling of the announcement. Come on SE you can do better than this. Just let us pass weapons :\

[Nohmaan]

I dunno, it seems to me that all this drop rate crap harkens back to the days of SNES Final Fantasys, where the way to add game play time was to make players grind exp.

Look, I'm all for doing Ifrit. Many times. But over 100 times and still only 1 weapon and 8 totems to show for it sucks. I like playing this game, but why do I have to do the same memorized fight so much? It's tedious!

Phantasy Star Online managed to thrive with only 4 levels (which were randomized) and be new and exciting each run. Can't we learn anything from that? Randomize dungeons so people can't memorize speed run them, or change Ifrit's dash pattern. Maybe if you mix up the battles you can make it exciting each time, and then justify decreasing the weapon exchange rates.

(OH. And if you DO mix up the battles, fix the latency issue. Nothing sucks worse than being killed by an attack you evaded on your screen only to find out you weren't in a designated "safe spot")

[Wevlum]

I dunno, it seems to me that all this drop rate crap harkens back to the days of SNES Final Fantasys, where the way to add game play time was to make players grind exp.

Look, I'm all for doing Ifrit. Many times. But over 100 times and still only 1 weapon and 8 totems to show for it sucks. I like playing this game, but why do I have to do the same memorized fight so much? It's tedious!

Phantasy Star Online managed to thrive with only 4 levels (which were randomized) and be new and exciting each run. Can't we learn anything from that? Randomize dungeons so people can't memorize speed run them, or change Ifrit's dash pattern. Maybe if you mix up the battles you can make it exciting each time, and then justify decreasing the weapon exchange rates.

(OH. And if you DO mix up the battles, fix the latency issue. Nothing sucks worse than being killed by an attack you evaded on your screen only to find out you weren't in a designated "safe spot")

This. The only challenge left in your fight SE is the god damn latency. Stop pretending it's worth spamming anymore than we already have.

[Pim-ptarutaruOdin]

This doesn't change the fact that people still stack certain classes for the Ifrit fight (THM) so a lot of people get left out can't do the fight anyway because people rather shout in town for 4 hours for 5 THM then get other classes.

i've seen every type of job go into ifrit <.< and i've seen all kinds of combos of jobs win it. Yes thm/blm burn is the most easy way to do it. But others can do it np. If your having that much trouble geting party invite, how about you make the party instead not that hard.

[Jinrya-Geki]

Thaumaturge moogle weapon isn't even worth that effort.

Ifrit's ok, but don't most black mages run around with a lightning brand?

[Wevlum]

i've seen every type of job go into ifrit <.< and i've seen all kinds of combos of jobs win it. Yes thm/blm burn is the most easy way to do it. But others can do it np. If your having that much trouble geting party invite, how about you make the party instead not that hard.

Unfortunately unless you have an LS of people willing to do that it won't go over well. Random groups/pickups are going to see the party setup and be all "haha no". I don't see it as entirely a community issue either, range is always rewarded by SE in that every mob and its dog spams aoe crap and people are just unwilling to heal front-line jobs other than tanks especially when thau is so easy to do OP damage on.

EDIT; Just because it's bound to happen... I'm saying thau is easy to do big damage with I'm not asking for your various parses where your mnk or drg rocks house. Mnk is my favourite job and I know the damage is good but that's not what this is about x.x

[Firon]

Thaumaturge moogle weapon isn't even worth that effort.

Ifrit's ok, but don't most black mages run around with a lightning brand?

Depends what you are doing the moogle wep is good for stuff that will resist you pretty hard, and it also lets you stack int more easily, instead of having to resort to dbl melds.

[Resheph]

i lol'd

and indeed agree with this sentiment

[Holyomen]

Previously we made an announcement mentioning that in patch 1.22 we would adjust the exchange rate for items collected from primal battles. As the development team was making adjustments, after giving thorough consideration for balance and other aspects, they have decided to reduce the number of Kupo Nut Charms to 10; however, the number of Inferno Totems will not be reduced and will remain at the cost of 10 each weapon.

We apologize for the change and appreciate your understanding.

I had 5 totems.....