Primal drop system, still no changes?!

[Robbie]

I just hate how grindy this fight is. I mean for god sake i play monster hunter and i never had to kill any monster 120+ times to get 1 item that i want. Hell even XI was grindy and even for a full ls of 45 people never had to kill Byakko 120+ times to get 45+ Byakko pants i mean this drop system makes no sense whats so ever.

It was like they was thinking lets make it like darkhold or we could do this stupid shit!

Yeah and at least the drop rate on those pants were like 45% plus more stuff dropped that other people might want. This system has sucked since day one and has it never been addressed by the dev team as to why it is not like any other NM/dungeon/stronghold loot system. It's a big issue with the community you would think they would have came out with something to try and convince us it is nothing more than a time sink to stop people deactivating accounts until next patch, especially now that we are paying again.

[TirionCrey]

While I agree, 20% drop rate does not mean 1 weapon every 5 kills. It just means each kill you've got a 20% chance which is completely independent of the results of any other kill.

My 1 weap out of 5 kills was merely "statistically" speaking. Of course you can get that unlucky streak of 40 kills w/o drop.

[Alise]

From all the reading, 70 kills for 7/7 weapons is the most reasonable and get most agreement here. I wish SE would take this into their ears for 1.22 Garuda fight...

Can Any dev make a reply about this? or Must it be from JP forum post only?

[TirionCrey]

70 fights on Ifrit sounds reasonable, yeah. Let's say each time is a speedrun, so <10min, that alone makes 700minutes which equal 11h40min...this sounds fair for Ifrit. If you count the downtime of 15min between each fight and the taper farming, that easily keeps you busy for a while.

If Nut charms are 100% as well, I'd tone that down from 20 to 15 Nuts for a weapon, since the fight takes longer than Ifrit and the weaps are not really "better".

If Garuda is around the corner, I'd be ok with taking 20 tokens for one weapon for the beginning, just reduce it over time with upcoming patches to make it more accessible.

[Enma]

Yeah, probably this would be the only reasonable solution. Totem/Nut drop 100% to all members of the party and keep same drop rate for weapons.

[Firon]

From all the reading, 70 kills for 7/7 weapons is the most reasonable and get most agreement here. I wish SE would take this into their ears for 1.22 Garuda fight...

Can Any dev make a reply about this? or Must it be from JP forum post only?

I'm not even looking forward to garuda if they don't change it.

[Rukkirii]

Hello everyone!

We looked into increasing the drop rate and allowing each party member to receive a inferno totem or kupo nut charm with each winning encounter, but instead of touching up on the drop rate, we decided to make adjustments to the number of required totems and nut charms.

In patch 1.22, the below changes are what we have planned:

• Inferno Totems: 10 → 5
• Kupo Nut Charms: 20 → 10

The reason we decided on this change is because if we changed the drop rate, there would still be unlucky players who would complain that they can't get an item, so we decided to not play with the drop rate and instead just change the amount of items required for exchange for a weapon.

[Chinook]

Why not push this into a 1.21b patch since you already announced it ?

I see nerd rage incoming for people who recently exchanged totems/nuts or from the people who don't read the forums and wil exchange them in the next few weeks.

It takes a lot of fights (and/or good friends) to gather 10 totems / 20 nuts, anyone who's been collecting them for more than one weapon is stuck waiting until 1.22 (unless they like to see their time wasted).

[ssppiikkeeyy]

Hello everyone!

We looked into increasing the drop rate and allowing each party member to receive a inferno totem or kupo nut charm with each winning encounter, but instead of touching up on the drop rate, we decided to make adjustments to the number of required totems and nut charms.

In patch 1.22, the below changes are what we have planned:

• Inferno Totems: 10 → 5
• Kupo Nut Charms: 20 → 10

The reason we decided on this change is because if we changed the drop rate, there would still be unlucky players who would complain that they can't get an item, so we decided to not play with the drop rate and instead just change the amount of items required for exchange for a weapon.

drop rate would still be better i think. i done ifrit 73 runs and got 1 totem no weapon drop the rate is beyond to low, this is nice if the totem would acully drop.

[Sigmakan]

drop rate would still be better i think. i done ifrit 73 runs and got 1 totem no weapon drop the rate is beyond to low, this is nice if the totem would acully drop.

Can I have some of your DM? I'm starting to run low